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Found this on a family tree on Ancestry are you sure wife was Jane?Worth checking.I think maybe Alice was his 2nd wife?Alice was born around 1829 so was not mother to Harriet and Lydia and is 1st found on the 1851 census with Charles


Charles sawings
Born: c,1818
Hackney

Spouse
Alice Hudson

1838-lydia sawings
1840–harriet sawings
1842–lewis sawings
1843–louisa sawings
1845–jane sawings
1850–eliza sawings
1854–charles w sawings
1856–Alice E Sawings

Lesley when you check back is this the same family?Wife listed as Alice?But lydia(spellt Lidia)and Harriet are there and Charles birth place correct.
1851 England Census


1851 England Census
about Charles Sawing
Name: Charles Sawing
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: Hackney, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration district: Hackney Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76
Household Members: Name Age
Betsey Reed 15
Alice Sawing 22
Charles Sawing 34
Eliza Sawing 1
Harriet Sawing 11
Jane Sawing 6
Lewis Sawing 9
Lidia Sawing 13

Poss marriage for Harriet


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Harriet Sawings
Name: Harriet Sawings
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Bethnal Green
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c

Nicky-Emily Leslie-Poor family 2 kids in one year!Must have both died of same disease i think?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Emily Leslie

Name: Emily Leslie
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Manchester (1837-1924)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d

1871 census for Stewart family I think is listed under FEWART - a lot matches

Maureen

Nicky poss death for John Henry

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about John Henry Leslie
Name: John Henry Leslie
Year of Registration: 1861
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Manchester (1837-1924)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d

Nicky-Leslie children


1841 England Census
about William Leslie
Name: William Leslie
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil Parish: Warrington
Hundred: West Derby
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Warrington
Sub-registration district: Warrington
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Leslie 15
Dinah Leslie 8
Eliza Leslie 15
Isabella Leslie 15
James Leslie 4
John Leslie 12
Margaret Leslie 40
Mary Leslie 6
William Leslie 40
William Leslie 14

This i think is William's father from 1841 census listed with few kids with similar names and dates to some of the lost kids?Not exact but mistakes were made alot in those days especially by grandparents.Listed them as sons and daughters but there was no wife listed?Worth taking a further look maybe nothing but anything when you are stuck is worth a try.
1861 England Census
about William Leslie
Name: William Leslie
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1797
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil Parish: Warrington
Ecclesiastical parish: Church
Town: Warrington
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Warrington
Sub-registration district: Warrington
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 166
Household Members: Name Age
Catherine Leslie 25
John Leslie 32
Margaret Leslie 6
Mary Leslie 4
William Leslie 64
William Leslie 2

Michelle,

This is the correct family,
Yes thanks for that, but I already have them pre 1861, and the children that I know survived from 1871 onwards..... Iv`e always wondered if they simply "missed" them off the 1861..... though how you can have that many children and "forget" about them seems impossible. I should have said William and Mary both died in Sep. 1861, so if you look on a later census you won`t find them, I also beleive John Henry and Emily died just before their parents though I do not have the certs. to prove that, though they should all have been alive at the time of 1861 census.

Thanks again
Nicky

Nicky expect you have this one!They are a hard bunch to trace-will keep looking.

1851 England Census
about Mary Leslie
Name: Mary Leslie
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Adam
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester

Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub-registration district: Deansgate
ED, institution, or vessel: 1n
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 41
Household Members: Name Age
Margeret Ann Leslie 1
Mary Leslie 24
William Adam Leslie 24

Christine-Poss death of Mother Jane

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Jane Stewart
Name: Jane Stewart
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Year of Registration: 1871
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 50
District: Gateshead
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a

Could you help me with my Leslie children that I have never been able to find in 1861.

I have their parents William Adam b 1827 Warrington and wife Mary {nee Needham} b 1827 Manchester they are at 38 Lower Byrom street Manchester.


The missing children are:
Margaret Ann b 1849 Bolton
Mary Jane b 1853 Manchester
William b 1855 Manchester
Adelaide b 1857 Manchester
John Henry b 1859 Manchester
and Emily b1861 also Manchester, she was only Christened 7 days before the census was taken so can`t be too far away..

Thanks in advance for any help you may be able to give me, this family have driven me mad for ages ...I can just find no trace of the children in 1861.

Nicky

No luck yet with 1871 will keep looking.

1861 England Census
about Jane Stewart
Name: Jane Stewart
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Gateshead, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Gateshead
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Gateshead
Sub-registration district: Gateshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 63
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Stewart 1 Mo
Jane Stewart 38
Jane Stewart 6
John Stewart 13
Margaret Ann Stewart 14
Robert Stewart 39
Robert Stewart 9
Thomas Stewart 11
William Stewart 8

My apologises Lesley Ancestry seems to be having technical difficulties tonight! I just asked if others were having probs and appears they are. I will keep trying for you.Saw the 1861 census record but 1871 was not on the 1st page are you having probs finding it?

Regards

Michelle

Please where possible give full names and year of birth and birthplace.Thank you.Check back at your thread to check for replies from me.

Michelle