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You lose again, Robert! ;)

That one's a given name too:

http://www.co.hinds.ms.us/pgs/apps/real_property_billing_roll_list_
detail.asp?ID=08240064000

You know the yanks and their fondness for -een names for women, especially among the white folks in southern locations: Lureen, that sort of thing. (That listing's in Plano, and believe it or not, I know Plano well. Spent a year there one weekend. Two trips, actually. A wedding and a funeral. About as much beer consumed in the pickup trucks in the parking lot at one as at the other ... and two trips deep into the belly of Texas were more than enough for me.)

But how *did* you find that battle orders one? My belated red-faced apologies for dissing that one, of course.

Absolutely incredible

Once again Katty B comes up trumps.

Hurine and Salford. Their is a story there.

73 Hurine's on GR mostly Greater Manchester.

Dee - You must have some connections there.

Have fun

You're very welcome! I just feel pretty thick for not having thought of that obvious variant earlier -- so I had to redeem myself. A fair bit more obvious than Harenc. ;)

I'm going out in a minute, I wish I wasn't, so much to look at.
I've copied the whole thread to a word doc, so I can't loose it.
Thank you just doesn't go near to expressing my gratitude.
Dee x

Haha, mystery of the name solved.

Google

hurine salford

and you'll find a reference to an alternate version of the name. Then search for that name in the censuses in Salford.

Understandably, this branch decided to add something. ;)

Perhaps the change wasn't effective for the purpose, and Albert took it farther!

Now just don't be deleting this thread like some people do when they get sorted!

Your Hurine surname seems to be unique. From what I can tell, the Hurines in the records all spring from that family in Salford. And where they sprang from, I dunno.

I was muddled when I suggested that George and Mary were parents of William -- George and William are more likely brothers; they're about 10 years apart.

Been looking for a household that resembles their parents' household in 1851 and 1861, but to no avail.


Here's how to sort it out, though -- there are four pages of Hurines in people's trees here at GR.

Aha -- FreeBMD found it but Ancestry didn't -- ?


Marriages Mar 1867
Battersby William Manchester 8d 127
>> HURINE William Manchester 8d 127
>> RUSSELL Mary Jane Manchester 8d 127
WEBB Esther Manchester 8d 127


In 1871 there is also this person, who one would think is the father of that William:


Name: George Hurine
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Salford
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Regent Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Household schedule number: 51

George Hurine 34
Mary Hurine 41


... but I oughta be letting you do this yourself. ;)

But there's still no marriage for William, Hurine or Hurin.


I'd say -- get the children's birth certificates so you have the mother's name, and then find the marriage at FreeBMD -- her name marrying a William 1865-76ish.

If you don't have access to the census images, PM me an email address and I'll send you a copy.

This seems to be the earliest Hurine birth in the GRO:


Name: Annie Hurine
Year of Registration: 1870
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Salford
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 130


And 1871 is the first appearance of the name in the English censuses ... barring mistranscriptions. Annie is recorded with her parents, her father being:


Name: William Hurine
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England


This would be son George in that household:


Name: George Hurin
Year of Registration: 1868
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Salford
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 128

Thank you, thank you, I'm sorry I've got to go and check this out!
Dee x

Kathryn, you are a star!!!!!!!!!!!
Albert & Rebecca lived in Salford!!!!!!!
what can I say?
OMG what do I do now?

Nonono, Dee -- keep reading! You posted before you saw those last bits, methinks. ;)

Thank you Robert & Kathryn, I'll start some fresh searching in New Zealand, my cousin lives there she may be able to help.
Thank you for your time
Dee x

There are no Hurine-Turner births, as yet transcribed by FreeBMD. But I think that if you go trawling through the GRO images, that's probably how you'll find Harry's birth registered.

Hurine seems to be a very common name in the Salford area.

And why that possibility didn't occur to me before, I dunno.

This is probably Albert:


Name: Albert Hurine
Year of Registration: 1896
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Salford
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 164


Could be this one in 1901:


Name: Albert Hurine
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Benjamin
Mother's Name: Sophie
Gender: Male
Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Salford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Greengate
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Household schedule number: 150

Albert Hurine 7
Benjamin Hurine 36
Benjamin Hurine 8
Elizabeth Hurine 14
Sophie Hurine 39
William Hurine 3

But look what I have found.


Name: Albert Hurine + Rebecca Turner
Year of Registration: 1918
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's Surname: Turner
District: Salford
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 128


There you are. I think that's them. Where the altered spelling came in, that's the next question!

If you google

hurene nz

you will find it used as a given name in several instances, e.g.:

http://slidgenz.blogspot.com/

-- a girl in school in 1946. Actually, given the Peti Brown birth record, I suspect it was a given name rather than a surname in her case.

Of course, it's also a "populated place" in the Netherlands.

If there are email addresses attached -- I see at least one -- you could always inquire!

Could Albert have been an anglicized version of an indigenous name?

Robert here, also in Canada, sent me that battle orders link, so we'll thank him!

Dang. It would have been quite fun to have those Harencs in your tree.

Hurene, in any form (e.g. Hurène, which I tried), just isn't French/Canadian. It's too bad the Cdn records are such a mess, making it hard to trust searches of transcriptions, but It just isn't a name I have ever heard (and I work bilingually for government, so I get exposed to a lot of names).


I would certainly pursue the info Robert found:


Peti Elizabeth Brown Hurene
Birth: About 1837 Taeiri Mouth, Dunedin, Otago, New Zealand
Death: 1907 Puketeraki, Karitane, Otago, New Zealand
Burial: 1907 Puketeraki, Karitane, Otago, New Zealand
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.
Source Information:
No source information is available.


If you could contact the submitter, s/he might know something! It sounds like Peti Elizabeth was a Brown by birth and a Hurene by marriage, maybe.

No ... searching for Peti Brown:


Peti Hurene Brown
Birth: About 1855 , Otago, New Zealand
Spouse: Tame Parata
Marriage: About 1876 Puketeraki, Otago, New Zealand
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.
Source Information:
No source information is available.


It could be an indigenous name in New Zealand?

... and thus spelled who knows how many ways in English?

Hi Kathryn
You've put so much work into this, thank you.
This is the story:
My mother in law had an affair with Harry Hurene in 1945 in India. My husband is the result, we have no wish to contact any family member, this is just for ancestry purposes only. I have all the love letters sent to my mil by Harry, I also have a letter sent to him from his mother & father, this letter has his name printed on it, so I'm quite sure of the spelling, it also has his parents address in the UK. I've made enquiries about who lived at the address at the date of the letter, from the electoral register I got the names Albert & Rebecca Hurene. There is no trace of any birth, deaths or marriages for any Hurenes in England. My mil passed away several years ago, the only person with any knowledge from years ago is my cousin in law, who thinks Harry was Canadian. If he served in the RAF he must have come from one of the Commonwealth Countries. His Englist is perfect, no sign that he may be foriegn, but he did address his letters as Cheri. After the war he took a job with the Admiralty and was posted to Sri Lanka, because of the uprising in India my mil left and came to the UK, they lost touch.
I know he existed, but where did his family came from, who are they?
Thanks again for your help, especially the battle orders.
Dee x

http://genealogiequebec.info/testphp/info.php?no=214848

List of participants in the Battle of Hastings

The list starts out:

"Harenc et Théobald de Visme"

I don't know whether that means "Harenc de Visme".

Apparently taken from the equivalent of a Peerage for Normandy (the source of many original Quebec settlers). I can't figure out what it has to do with Quebec genealogy, other than just background on Normandy families.

Name: Thomas Harenc
Year: 1641
Place: Quebec, Canada
Source Publication Code: 9221.17
Primary Immigrant: Harenc, Thomas

Annotation: Catalog of Immigrants. Complements volume 3 of Histoire de la Nouvelle-France (History of New France). Date and port of arrival, date and place of intention to emigrate, or date and place of first mention of residence in Quebec. Extracted from records in

Source Bibliography: TRUDEL, MARCEL. Catalogue des Immigrants, 1632-1662. Cahiers du Quebec Collection Histoire. Montreal: Editions Hurtubise HMH, 1983. 569p.
Page: 104