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JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 4 Jan 2008 02:41

http://www.thepeerage.com/p609.htm

Amy Beatrix Harenc was the daughter of Maj.-Gen. Archibald Harenc.1 She married Harry Beauchamp Yerburgh, son of Reverend Richard Yerburgh and Susan Higgin, on 18 April 1899.1 She died on 25 October 1948.1


Amy Beatrix Harenc 1899 Apr-May-Jun St George Hanover Square London, Middlesex
Amy Beatrix Hareng 1899 Apr-May-Jun St George Hanover Square London, Middlesex


So is there a distinct Canadian branch of the Huguenot (or not Huguenot, French RC) Harenc clan?

... Not in today's phone book.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 4 Jan 2008 02:22

There's a reference here:

http://hrp.org.uk/Resources/Grace%20&%20Favour
%20-%20A%20handbook%20of%20who%20lived
%20where%20in%20Hampton%20Court%20Palace
%201750%20to%201950.pdf

to "Benjamin Harene". In fact, he was Benjamin Harenc, as google has confirmed; and I now know who these Harencs are:

http://www.bexley.gov.uk/localstudies/local_history/guide_pdfs/21_foots_cray_place.pdf

Benjamin Harenc
The Harenc family came to England as Huguenot refugees and little is known about them until they took up residence in Foots Cray. In 1777 Benjamin Harenc was appointed High Sheriff of Kent. He enlarged the estate, which passed on his death to his son, also called Benjamin. This son became a well known local benefactor and was a founder of both the Bromley Savings Bank and also the Foots Cray National School. Nevertheless in 1821 he sold the estate to Nicholas Vansittart for £28,056-16s-0d.



And I'm still betting on that. ;)

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 4 Jan 2008 02:13

I am informed by private message (grrrrr):


For the Hurene search if you follow this link there is a H Hurene listed in the RAF battle orders
http://www.rquirk.com/159list/159battle3.pdf


and I still say: bad handwriting, bad reading ...

-- there are numerous "?"s on the page, indicating illegible original. And I don't think "Woodhan", on that page, is a name either. Or "Poag". Or "Fristrom". So I think I'm right!

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 4 Jan 2008 02:04

There actually is this household in Ontario in the 1911:


George A Harene 45
Juris Harene 46
Malie Harene 7
Ausan Harene 7


I can't begin to tell what the image actually says. Obviously, Ausan will be Susan. Juris looks like it may be Judith.

Harene might be a possibility, though. There seems to be a smattering of them in England, per FreeBMD.

Ditto Harenc. One might be a mistranscription of the other.


In the 1861 English census there is a Major A.R. Harenc (it's transcribed Harene, but I read it as Harenc) in the 53rd Regiment in Devon, dob c1822.

I suspect he might be the Archibald R Harene who married in 1862. Yes, in the 1871 in Kent as Harene with wife Amy; it still looks like Harenc to me.

Edit; indeed, it was Harenc. Google tells me that Archibald was also famous for his cricket exploits. And:

Name: Archibald Richard Harenc
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Year of Registration: 1884
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 62
District: Blandford
County: Dorset
Volume: 5a
Page: 145


Do you think that this might be the name?

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 4 Jan 2008 01:45

I just checked out an Albert Harcu in the 1906 western Canada census. The name is actually Houle, as would be plain to a bat, and certainly to anyone who had the least knowledge of French-Canadian names.

Might you be suffering from some similar gigantic blooper on someone's part?

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 4 Jan 2008 01:37

Any possibility of it being Morin?

There are an Albert and Rebecca Morin in the 1911 census in Mattawa in northeastern Ontario. That would be a Franco-Ontarian surname.

Birth records in most provinces are not accessible for 100 years, so finding a record of Harry's birth won't be possible.

If your Harry's family was in Quebec, BMD things are more complicated, and finding a record of the marriage problematic.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 4 Jan 2008 01:25

There is no one in the current Cdn phone book named Hurene.

http://findaperson.canada411.ca/

Google finds nothing that suggests it is a French or English surname. Are you taking the name from something where it could have been mistranscribed or misunderstood by the person who wrote it?

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 4 Jan 2008 01:22

Hurene -- a very unusual surname. So unusual, in fact, that there are none in the 1911 Cdn census. ;)

But that census is an abomination, of course -- many entries completely illegible, badly scanned, abysmally transcribed. I'll have a go at tricking the search engine. Do you have any other info at all that could help locate him in space? Presumably he and Rebecca weren't married by 1911.

Jackie

Jackie Report 4 Jan 2008 01:08

I'm trying to find info on Albert Hurene c1890 married to Rebecca, they had a son called Harry c1920, who I believe was French Canadian, and served in the RAF in 1945ish.
I would be so grateful for any help with this.
Thank you
Dee