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ALICE MARY ADCOCKShe had a brother in Burnley,,I think he was older than her. I do  not know if there were other siblings and cannot remember his name. He had a son and he was called Alan born approx 1923 and he moved to Nelson when he married.. looking for his children if he had any.  Burnley/Nelson LancashireI  have no idea where Alice Mary or her brother were born. But I know for sure that she died a few months before my 4th birthday. that would be 1936 and was 54 yrs old give or take a few months. [I do not know her exact birthday]. However she would have been born in 1882, also give or take a few months. but not years. She died in West Hill Hospital Dartford Kent and was burried as Alice Mary Hickling next to George Hickling in Crayford Cemetary. kent  This information contradicts some of my initial item but is now correct. She married Albert Ernest Davies [which could be writen Davis]from wales.Possibly born in Aberystwyth He was a mechant seaman. His Father ran a wine and lemonade store where they made their own. They were certainly in this area of old town Aberyswyth by1990 at the very latest  as two of the children were said to be born there and My father lived there from a few weeks old until he was 8 years old when he went to live in Buckingham Palace mews in1912. [first home on the right as you enter the gate to the coach house. They are up above the coaches on a balcony] I think Alice Mary became a seamstress there while the royal navy prepared for war.They had three children...Gwladys,[gladys], Ernest and Arthur John Herbert [born 1904]  in Tottenham [grandma was very ill and brought to london for the birth] He was then taken home to Wales some weeks later. Edward drowned at sea around 1912/14onward as my father was only living at the palace for a few years, as Grandma had to leave service once she was a widow She moved into London, possibly the East end and set up a wine and lemonade shop which she knew all about and the children knew how to put the bubbles into the lemonade and sparkly wine from working in their Granfathers shop from a very young age! She later married George Hickling when her three children were teenagers and young adults, and had two more sons one also named John but known as Jack, He served throughout the 2nd world war from about 18 yrs old. He moved to St Austel after marriage, and had two boys. He set up an electrical shop in St Austel  and lived in a village near by. The other son of this marriage was jeffery who emigrated to New Zealand.. My aunt and uncle from the first marriage did not have children, and I am the only child of Arthur John Herbert. Therefore the only Granchild of Alice Mary's first  marriage.Can anyone make me any connection to this area of the adcock family Most of the contacts have been the wrong dates for My Father.The birth date is exact as is place of birth. 31 Glenwood Rd Tottenham, on October 21st. 1904Sorry, but if this does not fit then it will not apply to your own tree, nor to mine.Arther John Herbert was yougest of the three children from the first marriage.We now have the birthdates of the Hickling boys. John [jack] E 1922 and Jeffery E 1923. marcia jeffry   nee davis.

are you saying Alice's surname was Adock? and do you mean Nelson in Wles or elsewhere - there are a number of places with the name Nelson

First you talk about Albert Edward Davies and then Edward??????

Would that be Burnley Lancs that Alice and her brother were born or just lived??

Yes alice mary adcock prior to marriage. she later lived in various areas of wales, also London Tottenham while married to albert. After marrying george she lived in Crayford kent.
Nelson, and Burnley are both in Lancashire, in the old mill districts.
Marcia

Do you know where Arthur your father was born please?

If Alice died in 1946 at the age of 54 then she was born in 1892??????

This Alice Davies is a widow but she has a son Albert E.

1891 England Census
about Alice Davies
Name: Alice Davies
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Salford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Salford
Sub registration district: Regent Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Davies 45
Albert E Davies 17
John J Davies 15
Charlotte Davies 12

the same family in 1881

Edward DAVIES Head M Male 37 Manchester Carter
Alace DAVIES Wife M Female 36 Manchester
Martha Ann DAVIES Daugr U Female 10 Manchester Scholer
Albert Edward DAVIES Son U Male 7 Manchester Scholer
John James DAVIES Son U Male 5 Manchester Scholer
Charlotte DAVIES Daugr U Female 2 Manchester
Thos. DAVIES Son U Male 2 m Salford

Source Information:
Dwelling 99 Sunnyside Street
Census Place Salford, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341949
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3974 / 12
Page Number 17

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about John E Hickling
Name: John E Hickling
Mother's Maiden Surname: Adcock
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1922
Registration district: Dartford
Registration county: Surrey,Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 1079

Found something at last!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Jeffery E Hickling
Name: Jeffery E Hickling
Mother's Maiden Surname: Adcock
Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1923
Registration district: Dartford
Registration county: Surrey,Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 938

If Alice was born in 1846 and she had John Edgar Hickling in 1922 she would have been 76?????? I don't thing so somehow.................................................

Thank you soooooooo much Ricochet. I was still looking.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Alice Mary Adcock
Name: Alice Mary Adcock
Year of Registration: 1899
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Edmonton
County: Essex, Hertfordshire, Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 628



Mel

The Albert Davies with mother Alice is still unmarried on the 1901 census:
104 Sunnyside St., Salford, Lancashire
Alice Davies, head, widow, 56
Albert, son, single, 27, warehouseman
John, son, single, 25, electrician
Charlotte, dau, single, 22, cotton winder
All born Manchester.

This looks like Alice Mary and her son Ernest James:
1901 census
37 Arondale Rd., Tottenham, Middlesex
Alfred John Murray, head, 21, water gas operator, born Enfield Highway
Caroline Eliz'th, wife, 25, born Surrey
***Alice Mary Davis, visitor, 23, born Aldershot
***Ernest James Davis, son, 8 months, born Hornsey

Oh you lot have been busy while I had to go and get our dinner.

I do wish Marcia would come back to the thread to see all the replies!!

Another mistery solved gang. well done.


~.•*´ ´*•.Mel.•*´ ´*•.~

Now the 1881 census gives John Adcock's wife and her mother!

1881 England Census
about John Adcock
Name: John Adcock
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Aldershot
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address: Lime St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Occupation: Ostler

Registration district: Farnham
Sub registration district: Frimley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Adcock 32 1849 Notts.
Ellen Adcock 33 1848 Canterbury Kent
John E. Adcock 7
Harry W. Adcock 5
Alice M. Adcock 2
Edgar G. Adcock
Charlotte Russell 69 Mother in Law b Canterbury Kent

Marriage of Alice Mary's parents

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about John Adcock
Name: John Adcock
Year of Registration: 1871
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Canterbury
County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 786

>>>>>John Adcock 1871 Canterbury Kent

John Fullerton 1871 Canterbury Kent

Annie Stevens Kennett 1871 Canterbury Kent

>>>>>Ellen Russell 1871 Canterbury Kent

Nudge for today.

Just keeping this up on the page as Marcia is having trouble trying to find out how the site works.

I have just had a message from her say she is now sorting through 100 messages!!!!

this is really a note for everyone
yes I am looking for all that adcock line. also i have updated the top of this and it is now way more accurate
marcia

this is really a note for everyone
yes I am looking for all that adcock line. also i have updated the top of this and it is now way more accurate
marcia

i have deleted a whole load of messages from my e-mail thinking I could see them later in threads! no! I've lost everything from the last few days.
Mia Culpa to everyone.
Please just bear with this ancient and non-laptop/threads/e-mail/internet /novice/idiot!!!
Can you please re-add what I have lost/destroyed. Stuff sent this week if I haven't replied please.
And I cannot find Richard O'shea and he is awful mad at me for not reading what he has written and he has taken so much time for me,and ,I think there is a lot and I AM SO SORRY!
a very meek and mild/ quivering in the boots.....Marcia

Well, you must all be heartily sick of me!!!! Not my fault this time!
I see the name stuck Ricochet. Thanks for all your work and all of Mels too. You have certainly found the right people so my Dad must have been told an awful lot of lies about his background!
Anyway it is all coming together nicely thanks to all the help.
Reason I have been absent so long: my mainline phone went down and it took nearly four weeks for them to find the fault....at the bottom of my garden, would you believe, on the incoming cable where it attaches to the pole! So, no phone, no internet.... It took another week for them to get that back on....
It was a very peaceful 5 weeks with time for a lot of reading, but a lot of frustration at not being able to get back online..
It will take another week to sort out all the 'waiting'stuff.
BIG THANK YOU'S ALL ROUND.
Big question....where did Wales come in? All my beliefs in my spoken ancestry seem to be falling apart very fast!