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James & Nellie Ardin

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Ann

Ann Report 5 Mar 2011 04:03

I am looking for death notces for James Ardin b. 1876 & Nellie Grace Ardin b. 1875. Also birth notice for Nellie Grace.

Grainne 20118919191919

Grainne 20118919191919 Report 5 Mar 2011 05:33

Name: James Ardin
Mother: Jane Sophia Ardin
Father: James Ardin
Birth: abt 1876
Baptism: 26 Mar 1876 - St Pancras All Saints, Middlesex

Name: James Ardin
Spouse: Nellie Grace Thomson
Father: James Ardin
Birth: abt 1876
Marriage: 4 Apr 1904 - Wandsworth, Surrey

Grainne 20118919191919

Grainne 20118919191919 Report 5 Mar 2011 05:42

possible death it says age 79 which would be right
Name: James Ardin
Death: Bromley, Kent, England
Death: Jan-Feb-Mar 1955

Regards
Grace

Ann

Ann Report 5 Mar 2011 06:27

Thankyou, it is great when you find a few missing links. I would like to find out when Nellie Grace died. If anyone can help.

Grainne 20118919191919

Grainne 20118919191919 Report 5 Mar 2011 06:44

Again right age:
Name: Nellie G Ardin
Death Registration Month/Year: 1960
Age at death (estimated): 86
Registration district: Worthing
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 5h
Page: 724

I found a Nellie G thomson in the 1891 census working as a general servant in London but born in New York.Couldn't find her in others.

Flip

Flip Report 5 Mar 2011 06:46

According to 1911 census she was born in America, but it doesn't say where - but she was British by parentage:

James Ardin
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition Married
Gender M
Age 35
Estimated Year of Birth 1876
Occupation Operator Royal Mint
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Industry Government
Place of Birth London St Pancras
Enumerator Information
Address 13 Clitheroe Road Stockwell S W
Parish Lambeth
Town Stockwell S W
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms 5
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN2029 RG78PN71 RD25 SD3 ED23 SN395
Administrative County London
Registration District Lambeth
Registration Sub District Stockwell
Enumeration District 23

Nellie Grace 36, married 7 years 2 children both alive
James William 6 born Stockwell
Arthur James 2 born Stockwell

Ann

Ann Report 5 Mar 2011 07:12

Many thanks everyone.

Flip

Flip Report 5 Mar 2011 07:15

Hoped to find her with parents, but no luck in 1891 - this looks like her in 1901 staying in what looks like a boarding house - but no address on the record, just Marylebone:

Nellie Thomson
Relation to Head of Family Servant
Age Last Birthday 26
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation ... Saleswoman
Employment Status
Condition as to Marriage Single
Where Born America British Subject
Address Marylebone

Dea

Dea Report 5 Mar 2011 10:16

Well, this 'could' be her arrival but unfortunately there is no detail on there to prove it.

She is travelling with a 'Mrs' Thomson - again no detail.

There was something written under occupation column for 'Mrs' but completely unreadable
on the image I am afraid (perhaps someone else could take a look?

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Miss Thomson Name: Miss Thomson
Birth Date: abt 1874
Age: 16
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 29 May 1890
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ship Name: Columbia
Search Ship Database: View the 'Columbia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Hamburg-America Line

Source Citation: Class: BT26; Piece: 7; Item: 81

Maybe someone who has access to the American records for this ship departing
might possibly find a little more info?

Dea x

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 5 Mar 2011 10:32

Dea it says Woman and along side the Miss Thomson it says Single.

Dea

Dea Report 5 Mar 2011 10:58

It seems that Nellies father was a William Hendrie Thomson, Bookkeeper and as he (or someone of that name) was at her wedding in 1904, he must have travelled over to the U.K. at some point.

I cannot find anything about his travells.

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 5 Mar 2011 11:05

Mel - thanks for looking, but can you take another look please as in the column for occupation which is between the name and the single bit, there is a VERY feint word which I cannot make out. (On the line re 'Mrs')

Thanks,

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 5 Mar 2011 11:25

This 'may' be his arrival?

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about William Thomson Name: William Thomson
Birth Date: abt 1851
Age: 46
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 8 Jun 1897
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Etruria
Search Ship Database: View the 'Etruria' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Official Number: 91187

He was a Book keeper !
Travelled over with wife Mary, also 46 !

Both Scottish?

Dea x

Grainne 20118919191919

Grainne 20118919191919 Report 5 Mar 2011 13:31

I assumed this was his birth

Births Jun 1848 (>99%)
Thomson William Hendrie St Giles &c 1 55

Grace

Ann

Ann Report 5 Mar 2011 23:02

Dea
Why did you think they might be Scottish? Interesting information.

Flip

Flip Report 6 Mar 2011 05:34

Could this be their marriage?

Marriages Dec 1872 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Fifield Elizabeth Lambeth 1d 538
Milbank Henry Arthur Lambeth 1d 538
>>>Thomson William Hendrie Lambeth 1d 538
>>>TODD Mary Ann Lambeth 1d 538

And William in 1911:

William Hendric Thomson [Hendrie on original]
Relationship to Head of Household Boarder
Condition Married
Gender M
Age 63
Estimated Year of Birth 1848
Occupation Book Keeper Dry Goods Establishment <<<
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Middlesex London Res
Nationality British
Enumerator Information
Address Gorey Pier Jersey
Parish St Martin
Town Gorey Pier
Number of Rooms Twelve
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN34847 RD637 SD1 ED6/4 SN101
Administrative County Jersey
Registration District Jersey
Enumeration District 6/4

Also on original it states he has been married 32 years, 6 children but only 1 still alive. No sign of wife, he is lodging with Amy Marshall (restaurant keeper) and others.

Ann

Ann Report 6 Mar 2011 05:59

Thanks. Details seems to match. William moved a fair bit for those times!

Ann

Ann Report 6 Mar 2011 06:13

I presume Lambeth is where they were born?
Were the first two names their witnesses?

Flip

Flip Report 8 Mar 2011 07:57

No, not witnesses they were another couple getting married and registered on the same page as your couple - it's just how it appears on freebmd. If you want more on the marriage you'll need a copy of the certificate.

Lambeth is where the marriage was registered, if the earlier birth posted by Grainne is correct William was registered at St Giles, so probably born in that registration district.

Dea

Dea Report 8 Mar 2011 08:12

Sorry Ann,

I have only just noticed your question to me about why I thought they were Scottish!

The reason was that on the Ship's passenger list where I saw a William arriving with wife Mary in 1897, they had both been listed in the 'Scottish' column.

There was no middle name on there for him so it may not be the same person?

I will take a further look.

Dea x