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Debbie

Debbie Report 14 Sep 2009 22:02

Hi
I've managed to trace the Bisphams as far back as my 2nd G.Grandfather, John, but have not been able to find anything further back. John was born in Ulverston, Cumbria, probably around 1824. He married Agnes Cleminson in 1844. He had 5 children, all born in Ulverston.
William Bispham, b.3.12.1846
George Cleminson Bispham, b.1849
Ann Bispham, b.1856
Stephen Bispham, b.3.10.1858
John Bispham, b.1861

If anybody can help me go back any further, please get in touch. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Debbie

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 14 Sep 2009 22:38

Hi Debbie.

I can't see anything to find his parents or siblings. I did find this though;

1861 England Census
about John Bispin
Name: John Bispin
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relation: Mate
Gender: Male
Where born: Ulverston, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Vessels
Town: Mounts Bay
County/Island: Misc Ships At Sea or Abroad
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: Married

Registration district: Misc Ships
Sub-registration district: Misc Ships
ED, institution, or vessel: Richard Roper
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
William Rawcliffe 53
John Bispin 37
Henry Rawlinson 22
Joseph Rawcliff 17
William Bispin 14


I see his occupation is a labourer 10 years later, could this be him in 1861?

I think you would need the marriage cert, hopefully it will give his fathers name and hopefully the witnesses maybe Bisphams .


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 14 Sep 2009 22:42

This tallies with the 1861 census;

1841 England Census
about John Bispin
Name: John Bispin
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Ulverstone
Hundred: Lonsdale
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Ulverstone
Sub-registration district: Ulverstone
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Bispin 45 <<<<<< cotton spinner
Eleanor Bispin 41
John Bispin 17 <<<<<<<< painter apphrentice.


Image could be BISFAM!!!


Dee x


BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 14 Sep 2009 22:52

1861 England Census
about William Bispham
Name: William Bispham
Age: 67
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1794
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Haughton, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Ulverston
Town: Ulverston
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Ulverston
Sub-registration district: Ulverston
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 48
Household Members: Name Age
William Bispham 67 <<<<<<<<< cotton worker
Ellen Bispham 61
Joshua Williamson 61 <<<<<<<<<< Lodger


In 1851 William Bispin/Bispham was a cotton spinner......... this could be your Johns family, the marriage cert is what you need next to hopefully confirm William as Johns father!!!


Dee x

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 14 Sep 2009 23:00

If william is found to be Johns father, tread carefully 'cos I just found this;

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about William Bispham
Name: William Bispham
Year of Registration: 1840
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Ulverston
County: Cumbria, Lancashire
Volume: 25
Page: 187

View Record


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Name: Eleanor Bewsher
Year of Registration: 1840
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Ulverston
County: Cumbria, Lancashire
Volume: 25

Others on the same page, the top name concerns me........... Eleanor may not be Johns mother.

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Eleanor Bewsher 1840 Ulverston Cumbria, Lancashire
View Record
George Birkett 1840 Ulverston Cumbria, Lancashire
View Record
William Bispham 1840 Ulverston Cumbria, Lancashire
View Record
Mary Chapman 1840 Ulverston Cumbria, Lancashire
View Record
Jane Davis 1840 Ulverston Cumbria, Lancashire
View Record
William Love 1840 Ulverston Cumbria, Lancashire
View Record
Ann Pickthall 1840 Ulverston Cumbria, Lancashire
View Record
John Walton 1840

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 14 Sep 2009 23:22

Baptism: 14 Oct 1823 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England
Ann Bispin - Dau of William Bispin & Ellen
Abode: Ulverston
Occupation: Cottonspinner
Notes: Twin
Baptised by: J. Sunderland Minister
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1823 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 188, Entry 1499
Source: LDS Film 1040491

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 14 Sep 2009 23:23

Baptism: 14 Oct 1823 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England
John Bispin - Son of William Bispin & Ellen
Abode: Ulverston
Occupation: Cottonspinner
Notes: Twin
Baptised by: J. Sunderland Minister
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1823 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 188, Entry 1499
Source: LDS Film 1040491

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 14 Sep 2009 23:25

Baptism: 2 May 1823 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England
Agnes Cleminson - Dau of William Cleminson & Jane
Abode: Ulverston
Occupation: Husbandman
Baptised by: J. Sunderland Minister
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1823 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 181, Entry 1441
Source: LDS Film 1040491

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 14 Sep 2009 23:26

Baptism: 11 Aug 1822 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England
Charles Cleminson - Son of Thomas Cleminson & Mary
Abode: Ulverston
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: J. Sunderland Minister
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1823 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 169, Entry 1350
Source: LDS Film 1040491

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 14 Sep 2009 23:27

Baptism: 5 Jul 1814 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England
Edward Cleminson - Son of John Cleminson & Mary
Born: 5 Jul 1814
Abode: Ulverston
Occupation: Mariner
Baptised by: John Sunderland Incumbent Curate
Source: LDS Film 1040491

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 14 Sep 2009 23:28

Baptism: 25 Aug 1818 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England
Isabella Cleminson - Daughter of William Cleminson & Jane
Born: 13 Aug 1818
Abode: Ulverston
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: J. Sunderland
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1823 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 96, Entry 763
Source: LDS Film 1040491

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 14 Sep 2009 23:28

Baptism: 23 Jul 1816 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England
John Cleminson - Son of William Cleminson & Jane
Abode: Ulverston
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: J. Sunderland
Source: LDS Film 1040491

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 14 Sep 2009 23:29

Baptism: 9 Apr 1820 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England
John Cleminson - Son of Thomas Cleminson & Mary
Born: 2 Apr 1820
Abode: Ulverston
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: J. Sunderland Minister
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1823 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 126, Entry 1008
Source: LDS Film 1040491

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 14 Sep 2009 23:30

Baptism: 30 Mar 1817 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England
Sarah Cleminson - Daughter of John Cleminson & Mary
Abode: Ulverstone
Occupation: Mariner
Baptised by: J. Sunderland
Source: LDS Film 1040491

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 14 Sep 2009 23:30

Baptism: 24 Sep 1820 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England
William Cleminson - Son of William Cleminson & Jane
Born: 15 Aug 1820
Abode: Ulverston
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: J. Sunderland Minister
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1823 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 134, Entry 1070
Source: LDS Film 1040491

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 14 Sep 2009 23:37

Marriage: 13 Jan 1821 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England
William Bispin - (X), Cotton Spinner Bachelor of Ulverston
Eleanor Kendal - (X), Spinster of Ulverston
Witness: William Ormandy; Eleanor Chamney
Married by Banns by: J. Sunderland, Minister
Register: Marriages 1821 - 1823 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 101, Entry 301
Source: LDS Film 1040491

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 14 Sep 2009 23:38

Marriage: 14 Jun 1779 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England
James Clementson - Weaver of Ulverston
Agnes Sandys - Spinster of Ulverston
Married by Banns
Register: Marriages 1771 - 1780 from the Bishops Transcripts, Page 1, Entry 144
Source: LDS Film 1040491

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 14 Sep 2009 23:39

Marriage: 5 May 1777 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England
William Clementson - of Ulverston
Agnes Dickinson - of Ulverston
Married by Banns
Register: Marriages 1771 - 1780 from the Bishops Transcripts, Page 1, Entry 109
Source: LDS Film 1040491

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 14 Sep 2009 23:40

Marriage: 24 Jan 1774 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England
George Cleminson - of Ulverston
Jane Brockbank - of Ulverston
Married by Banns
Register: Marriages 1771 - 1780 from the Bishops Transcripts, Page 1, Entry 51
Source: LDS Film 1040491

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 14 Sep 2009 23:40

Marriage: 21 Jul 1823 St Mary, Ulverston, Lancashire, England
John Cleminson - (X), Weaver of Ulverston
Mary Bagley - (X), Spinster of Ulverston
Witness: John Athersmith; John Moss
Married by Banns by: Martin Dunn, Off. Minister
Notes: [No groom condition entered]
Register: Marriages 1821 - 1823 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 127, Entry 382
Source: LDS Film 1040491