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JaneyCanuck
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7 Sep 2009 01:27 |
I'm putting this on the Brotchie "surname board" because I know Christina's looking there. ;)
Christina - do click:
"To list the entire trying to find board again click here, "
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
Marriages Jun 1925 Brotchie Irene M Kaye Chipping N. 3a 2639 Kaye Leonard Brotchie Chipping N. 3a 2639
Christina, if your friend orders that marriage certificate, she will get the spouses' ages and the names and occupations of the spouses' fathers. http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
To look for their births in Scotland:
www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
You have to register (free) and can search free, but to see results you have to buy credits.
Although - if you search for a birth for Leonard Kaye at FreeBMD (url above), you will find on in Chipping Norton in 1901 that would very probably be him. That birth cert would give his parents' names.
If that's him, he did have the great consideration to be born just before the 1901 census!
Name: Leonard Kaye Age: 2 months Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Hannah Where born: Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire, England Civil parish: Chipping Norton County/Island: Oxfordshire
John Kaye 37 Hannah Kaye 35 Alice Kaye 14 Hilda Kaye 12 Clara Kaye 5 Henry Kaye 2 Leonard Kaye 2 months
That should start you off ...
We also have a possible Irene Brotchie:
Births Dec 1905 Brotchie Irene Marjory Hartlepool 10a 145
1911 census
http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx?
BROTCHIE IRENE 1906 5 Hartlepool Durham
with 7 other Brotchies all 24 or under - siblings with a stepfather?
BROTCHIE MARION 1887 24 Hartlepool Durham BROTCHIE JANET 1892 19 Hartlepool Durham BROTCHIE CHARLES 1897 14 Hartlepool Durham BROTCHIE OLIVE 1897 14 Hartlepool Durham BROTCHIE JOSEPH 1898 13 Hartlepool Durham BROTCHIE ALBERT 1903 8 Hartlepool Durham BROTCHIE DOROTHY 1908 3 Hartlepool Durham
Searching for their marriages at FreeBMD will get more info, and so on.
Christina's original message, in reply to several Brotchie threads:
I am researching for a friend. Her mother, Victoria Canada born 1926 had parents IRENE BROTCHIE and LEONARD KAYE who born UK. My friend knows so little about these families but is interested in the Brotchie family in particular. She knows they were from Scotland originally but not much else. Any help would be great. Thanks Christina in Victoria Canada
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LadyKira
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7 Sep 2009 02:33 |
maybe
1901 Address: 42, Turner Road, Lee BROTCHIE, William D Head Married M 36 1865 Plumber Deptford VIEW BROTCHIE, Thirza Wife Married F 33 1868 Shipton Yorkshire VIEW BROTCHIE, Mabel Daughter F 7 1894 Lee VIEW BROTCHIE, Irene Daughter F 5 1896 Lee
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LadyKira
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7 Sep 2009 02:36 |
Births Mar 1896 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brotchie Irene Dorothy Lewisham 1d 1173
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1905 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brotchie Irene Marjory Hartlepool 10a 145
Ok it is the Hartlepool one with the M
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LadyKira
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7 Sep 2009 02:40 |
1901 Address: 14, Poplar Grove, West Hartlepool BROTCHIE, Amy Wife Married F 37 1864 Middlesbro Yorkshire VIEW BROTCHIE, James S Son Single M 16 1885 Shipowner's Clerk West Hartlepool Durham VIEW BROTCHIE, Marion Daughter Single F 14 1887 West Hartlepool Durham VIEW BROTCHIE, Amy Daughter F 12 1889 West Hartlepool Durham VIEW BROTCHIE, Janet Daughter F 9 1892 West Hartlepool Durham VIEW BROTCHIE, Donald Son M 6 1895 West Hartlepool Durham VIEW BROTCHIE, Olive M Daughter F 4 1897 West Hartlepool Durham VIEW BROTCHIE, Charles W Son M 4 1897 West Hartlepool Durham VIEW BROTCHIE, Joseph Son M 3 1898 West Hartlepool Durham VIEW BOAGEY, Ann Visitor Widow F 71 1830 Knaresboro Yorkshire
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LadyKira
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7 Sep 2009 02:42 |
1891 Address: 13, Poplar Grove, Stranton, Hartlepool BROTCHIE, Donald Head Married M 35 1856 Marine Engineer Middleton Yorkshire VIEW BROTCHIE, Amy Wife Married F 27 1864 Middleton Yorkshire VIEW BROTCHIE, James Simon Son Single M 6 1885 West Hartlepool Co Durham VIEW BROTCHIE, Marion Daughter Single F 4 1887 West Hartlepool VIEW BROTCHIE, Amy Daughter Single F 2 1889 West Hartlepool
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LadyKira
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7 Sep 2009 02:47 |
cant see donald 1881 yet but check this out
1881 Address: 27, Burbank St, Stranton BROTCHIE, Mary Wife Head Married F 55 1826 Master Mariners Wife Sunderland Durham VIEW BROTCHIE, George Son Single M 20 1861 Engine Fitter At Works West Hartlepool Durham VIEW BROTCHIE, Willie Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar West Hartlepool Durham VIEW CAMPBELL, Amy Niece Single F 17 1864 Middlesbro Yorkshire
That may well be Amy
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LadyKira
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7 Sep 2009 02:51 |
1871 Address: Scarborough Street, Stranton, West Hartlepool BROTCHIE, Mary Wife F 46 1825 County Durham VIEW BROTCHIE, Robert Son M 19 1852 Yorkshire VIEW BROTCHIE, Donald Son M 10 1861 Yorkshire VIEW BROTCHIE, George Son M 9 1862 County Durham VIEW BROTCHIE, William Son M 0 1871 County Durham
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LadyKira
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7 Sep 2009 02:53 |
1861 Address: 4, Regents Place, Stranton BROTCHIE, James Head Married M 34 1827 Master Mariner Scotland VIEW BROTCHIE, Mary Wife Married F 34 1827 Sunderland Durham VIEW BROTCHIE, Robert Son Unmarried M 8 1853 Middlesbrough Yorkshire VIEW BROTCHIE, Joseph Son M 7 1854 Middlesbrough Yorkshire VIEW BROTCHIE, Daniel Son M 2 1859 Middlesbrough Yorkshire
Thats my lot for the night
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LadyKira
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7 Sep 2009 09:35 |
probable marriage
Marriages Dec 1848 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brotchie James Stockton &. 24 227 Handysides Mary Stockton 24 227
james is not in england 1841
i do not have 1851 for that area yet.
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LadyKira
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7 Sep 2009 09:50 |
most likely birth
25. JAMES BROTCHIE - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 13 FEB 1827 Dunnet, Caithness, Scotland IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Search Results | Download | Print
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JAMES BROTCHIE Pedigree Male
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 04 FEB 1827 Christening: 13 FEB 1827 Dunnet, Caithness, Scotland Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: JOHN BROTCHIE Family Mother: MARY BROTCHIE
Batch Number: 7310258
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LadyKira
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7 Sep 2009 09:52 |
i am off to work now. will check in tonight.
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LadyKira
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7 Sep 2009 10:03 |
Births Sep 1851 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brotchie Robert Stockton 24 328
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LadyKira
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7 Sep 2009 10:04 |
I think Janey you will need to point Christina in this direction.
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LadyKira
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7 Sep 2009 10:05 |
Births Jun 1853 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brotchie Joseph Stockton 10a 36
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LadyKira
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7 Sep 2009 10:06 |
Births Jun 1859 (>99%) Brotchie Daniel Stockton 10a 32
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LadyKira
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7 Sep 2009 10:07 |
Births Jun 1861 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brotchie George Hartlepool 10a 125
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LadyKira
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7 Sep 2009 10:11 |
how sad
looks like one of the brotchies had twins but not sure of parents
Births Jun 1865 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brotchie Margaret Ann Hartlepool 10a 166 Brotchie William Donald Hartlepool 10a 166
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Sep 1865 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brotchie Margaret Ann Hartlepool 10a 74 Brotchie William Donald Hartlepool 10a 74
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LadyKira
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7 Sep 2009 10:12 |
and another short lived
you will need certificates to ascertain the parantage
Births Sep 1866 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brotchie Florence M Hartlepool 10a 148
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Sep 1866 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brotchie Florence M 0 Hartlepool 10a 83
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LadyKira
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7 Sep 2009 10:17 |
one of george and Marys children.
Births Dec 1870 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brotchie William Hartlepool 10a 179
If you google freebmd you can find these and lots more for yourself it is fun.
when you find them post them on here and I will point you to the next stage.
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JaneyCanuck
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7 Sep 2009 15:58 |
You will point Christina, will you, Christine? ;)
I did provide the url for FreeBMD right at the beginning, note. Since the family isn't Christina's own, I didn't feel the usual reluctance about spoiling the fun of discovery for someone, so I took it back a generation, but didn't want to go much farther until knowing that Christina was reading and interested.
I see now (our Canadian morning, but it's still very early on the west coast) that Christina has read my PM directing her to this thread.
This may all be a tad overwhelming now! I'll wait to hear from her.
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