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Albert Ernest Bulley

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kay

kay Report 13 Sep 2009 20:21

Trying to find info on Albert Ernest Bulley. Born in county cork 1886. Cannot find any records if someone can help or give me some tips please let me know

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 13 Sep 2009 20:30

What info are you looking for?

What info do you have?

Since you are looking for info about him, you must have some!

Parents? siblings? spouse? children?

GRMarilyn

GRMarilyn Report 13 Sep 2009 20:38

1911 census has a ALBERT ERNEST BULLEY b 1887 ( Woolwich District )

in the Military.......

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 13 Sep 2009 20:41

And FreeBMD has two marriages, Bromley 1911 and Bristol 1920.

The marriage certificates would show the father's name, which kay presumably knows ...

Or conversely, maybe she knows whom he married and who his children were ...

kay

kay Report 15 Sep 2009 14:29

I don't know very much. He was my grandad and my Dad said he never spoke of his family. I think he had a sister in canada called ethel. he was in the canadian army and married there then got divorced. he then came back to england and met my grandma. i would love to know who his parents were and if he had any other family in county cork ireland, but i am not sure how to go about it.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 15 Sep 2009 14:33

Ah, it's so easy with info.

Go here:

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-100.01-e.php

and search for

BULLEY
ALBERT

and he's right there!

Click on his name

Then click where it says "Attestation paper" "front of form".

You will see an image of the attestation paper he filled out when he enrolled in the Canadian military. I'll let you look rather than tell you what it says. ;)

kay

kay Report 15 Sep 2009 14:36

thanks janey you're a star

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 15 Sep 2009 14:39

I don't pay for access to Ancestry Canadian records at the moment. (I'm in Canada.) But you can still search, just not see detailed results.

http://search.ancestry.ca/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=7921

This is the search form for Ontario marriages. I don't get any results for Albert Bulley marrying Edith.

His form says he was in the English military for 12 years before he enrolled in Canada. So he probably married before coming to Canada.

Yup. The 1911 marriage in Bromley will be him. And of course that's likely him in the military in 1911 that Marilyn found.

That 1911 marriage certificate will give you his father's name.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 15 Sep 2009 14:41

And here he is in 1901 - unfortunately, already in barracks at that young age, so no family info.


Name: Albert Ernest Bulley
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Soldier In Bks
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Woolwich
County/Island: London

ED, institution, or vessel: Army Service Corps Barracks and Cambridge Cottages

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 15 Sep 2009 14:47

And the other news -- there was one child of the marriage born in England.

Search at FreeBMD for births with surname Bulley and the mother's surname from that marriage. Oh, okay. ;)

Births Sep 1912
Bulley Grace E (Franklin) Bromley 2a 1156


If he had other children in Canada we can't check, because privacy legislation in Ontario protects birth reg info for 100 years. And marriages for 75 years, so we can't look for a marriage for Grace. I don't see a remarriage for Edith Bulley.


Oops, you're welcome, of course!

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 15 Sep 2009 14:50

So is the 1920 marriage the marriage to your grandmother - and the 1921 birth your dad?

It's the 1920 marriage certificate you want then (rather than the marriage to a stranger). It should give his father's name, if he knew/declared it.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 15 Sep 2009 14:52

Someone here has a Grace Bulley with unknown place of birth in his tree. She may well be the one born in Australia, but you might want to try contacting the tree owner!

Do you know the person who has Albert Bulley, 1886 Cork, in his tree??

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 15 Sep 2009 15:07

There is a marriage in Ontario for Ethel May Bulley + James scott. I can't see the date, of course.

At Ancestry, the actual record of the marriage registration can be seen. It shows age, place of birth, both parents' names, and witnesses.

If you add "Ancestry.ca help" or some such to your subject line, one of my fellow Canuckistanians, or someone with worldwide Ancestry access, will likely see the the thread and take a look. If not, we can dig someone up.

In the 1911 Canadian census

http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census11/index.jsp

I don't see Ethel Bulley or Ethel + James Scott.

kay

kay Report 15 Sep 2009 15:10

have written a few messages but not sure they are getting through

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 15 Sep 2009 15:11

http://www.findmypast.com/passengerListPersonSearchStart.action

BULLEY Edith A 1887 1913 Southampton Canada Quebec
BULLEY Grace R 1902 F 1913 Southampton Canada Quebec

? BULLEY Alberto 1886 1913 Liverpool Canada Halifax


edit - hold on - the age is all wrong for Grade Bulley. A mistranscription of the age maybe?

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 15 Sep 2009 15:13

You can check whether your messages have been read --

Go to the Sent Messages folder at your Messages page.
If the envelope beside the message you sent is still purple, it hasn't been read.

This is almost always because the person is no longer active at GR and has changed email addresses since registering, but not changed the email address on their account here. So the notices the system sends about private messages aren't received.

It's all too common, unfortunately. (So I'll keep recommending that people get a permanent email account at www.gmail.com and use it for GR accounts!)

kay

kay Report 15 Sep 2009 15:15


yes it is. nan din't marry him until the 1950s, 1st hubby wouldn't give her a divorce. dad was born in 1922 as ernest walter crane, took name from 1st hubby, as was brought up by him. nan left 1st hubby for albert bulley. dad did not find out that albert bulley was his real dad until he was 20 yrs, he remebers being hidden away when he was visiting his mum when she had visitors..................

kay

kay Report 15 Sep 2009 15:16

won't be here for a while have to pick kids up, but will be back this is fascinating

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 15 Sep 2009 15:23

Oh! So it's not the marriage and birth I was looking at. If you don't have the reg details for the marriage in the 50s, so you can get the certificate, let me know and I'll PM them.

I think I've exhausted my resources at this point, but do add the Canada reference to your title and we'll see whether we can get that Ontario marriage.

Or hm, I'll PM somebody who has Ancestry worldwide access ...

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 15 Sep 2009 16:05

Ethel May Bulley / James Scott

Location is York.

I am being blocked from viewing at the moment,but with worldwide I should be able to view,so I will try to find out the problem.