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Just spoken to someone at The National Archives who tells me they have passenger and crew list for Olympic and given me a reference number.
Very helpful.Will pay a visit later on in the year,

Thank you for all your help.

Bernie

From Pams passenger list there is a Cecil Jackson sailing to Cherbourg in 1909. Stretching it a bit but could he have signed on in France 2 years later.

Looks like the Olympic (from passenger records) sailed out of Cherbourg France, Queenstown Ireland & Southampton England. Heading for New York.


Tracey x

No she did not have her maiden voyage until June 1911.

We are trying to establish currently when your Cecil could have been on the Olympic.

I think he maybe signed up for her on her maiden voyage to New York in June 1911. I also think he was on her until she was in for repairs in Southampton after the 'HMS Hawke' incident.

With the data we have from the Titanic website stating he previously worked on the Olympic, and the very fact we know she sailed out of Belfast on her maiden voyage, and that she was limped into Southampton for repairs around the same time they were enlisting for the Titanic is a little too circumstantial to ignore for me!
(especially as the Olympic was taken back to Belfast for the repairs)


Tracey x

Thanks Pam

Sorry Tracey Im lost.
Did the Olympic go to New York in 1910

Bernie

This is the Wiki on her.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Olympic

Tracey x

RMS Olympic, sister ship of infamous RMS Titanic.
Career
Nationality: British
Owner: White Star Line
Builder: Harland and Wolff yards in Belfast, Ireland
Laid down: December 16, 1908
Launched: October 20, 1910
Christened: Not Christened
Maiden voyage: June 14, 1911
Fate: Served for 24 years from 1911 to 1935. Scrapped.
General Characteristics
Tonnage: 45,324 (46,439 after 1912)
Displacement: 52,067 tons
Length: 882 ft, 9 in
Beam: 92.5 feet
Draught: 34 ft, 7 in

It states in the writeup it's 1911. The hull only was launched in 1910.


Tracey x

From Passenger Lists on FMP


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JACKSON Cecil Unknown M 1899 Southampton South Africa Durban (Port Natal)
JACKSON Cecil Unknown M 1901 Liverpool USA Portland
JACKSON Cecil Unknown M 1909 Southampton France Cherbourg
JACKSON Cecil Unknown M 1911 Southampton USA New York

Was Violet lucky or a bit of a Jonah.

Seems crew of Olympic were new crew on Titanic , or some of them

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Thought maiden voyage was 1910 Southampton to New York..

Olympic's maiden voyage commenced on June 14, 1911, out of Belfast.


Tracey x

Found this also....

On September 20, 1911, Olympic's first major mishap was the collision with a British warship, HMS Hawke. Although the collision left two of her water-tight compartments filled and one of her propeller shafts twisted, Olympic was able to limp back to Southampton. At the resultant inquiry, the Royal Navy blamed Olympic for the incident, alleging that her massive size generated a suction that pulled HMS Hawke into her side. In command during this incident was Captain Edward Smith, who would famously die at the helm of Titanic less than a year later. One crew member, Violet Jessop, survived not only the collision with the Hawke, but also the later sinking of Titanic as well as the 1916 sinking of Britannic, the third member of the class. Curiously, a similar incident was narrowly avoided by Titanic a year later, when a smaller vessel New York was pulled free of her moorings and was about to collide with Titanic, because of the huge water displaced by Titanic. Fortunately, the tugboat operator nearby reacted quickly and pulled the smaller vessel away from Titanic.

The Hawke incident was a financial disaster for Olympic's operator and keeping her out of revenue service made matters worse. Olympic returned to Belfast and to speed up the her repair, Harland and Wolff was forced to delay Titanic's completion and use her propeller shaft for Olympic. In February 1912, Olympic lost a propeller blade and she once again returned to her builder for emergency repairs. To get her back to service immediately, Harland & Wolff yet again had to pull resources from Titanic, delaying her maiden voyage from March 20, 1912 to April 10, 1912. [1]

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061005143630AAFaALG

Maybe the rebuilding was done in Belfast and all crew had signed on for the Titanic. Was Harland & Woolf in Belfast.

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Wonder if Olympic had passengers for trip from Southampton to Belfast.

Well the Olympic was sailing upto 1912, and she is an identical ship to the Titanic, I do wonder if he signed up for the Titanic because the Olympic was going in for the first of her 'rebuilding' works? ...possibly at Southampton?


Tracey x

Very helpful.

So Cecil could have signed on earlier than the Belfast trip and been in America around the 1911 census.Do you know if White Star (Cunard) would have records.

Bernie


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Thanks Jonesey

This might help a little....

S/S Olympic, White Star Line

Burden Built Shipowner or operator Dimensions 46,439 gross, built in 1911 at Belfast, Ireland by Harland & Wolff White Star Line 852.5ft x 92.5ft x 59.5ft

Year Remarks
1910 Maiden voyage Southampton - New York <<<<Helpful??
1912 Rebuilding
1913 Rebuilding
1915 Troop ship
1917 Rammed and sank U-130
1924 Collided with the "Fort St George" of Furness Line
The information listed above is not the complete record of the ship. The information was collected from a multitude of sources, and new information will be added as it emerges

The S/S Olympic had a tonnage of 46,359 tons gross, 35,043 under deck and 22,350 net - (these figures were subject to changes through time, whenever the ship was re-built or re-equipped). Poop 76 feet long, bridge deck 540 feet long, forecastle 127 feet, and promenade deck 495 feet. She had four funnels, 2 masts, 5 decks amidships, 7 decks in No. 1 hold and 6 decks in other holds. She was fitted with electric light, refrigerating machinery, and a submarine signaling device, and wireless. She had triple screws and triple expansion engines with 8 cylinders, (2) 54, (2) 84 and (4) 97 inches diameter respectively and stroke 75 inches, delivering 6,906 registered horsepower. She had 1 low pressure turbine. The engine was built by Harland & Wolff. She had water ballast. Call sign: HSRP. Official registration #: 131346. There was accommodation for 735 1st class, 675 2nd class and 1030 3rd class passengers. [1919-20 Lloyd's Registry of shipping, subm. Gilbert Provost]

http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_ship.asp?sh=olymc

T x

Yes thanks

Im sure not his best photo

I am assuming you have this picture of Cecil?

http://www.eatonbray.co.uk/photoalbum/photo25.html


Tracey x

It's ok, found a Cecil Jackson travelling with a parent, but he's not yours, the parent was Pauline Jackson.


T x

Parents Jeffrey & Mary Jackson nee Henley born Eaton Bray Beds.

Do we know whom his parents were?

T x