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My GGrandfather was called William Kitchenham c1905 Maidstone. His Brothers were called Frederick J Cole 1916 Maidstone, and Arthur Cole Maidstone. Their mother was called Louisa Emily Kitchenham 1881, and father called Edward Cole.

I have made a start on the Kitchenham decendents, thanks to oters out there, but id like to start the Cole side if possiblem seeing as my surname should have been Cole if my GGranfather William Kitchenham hadnt been born out of wedlock and given his mothers maiden name.

So if anyone out there can help me, and also trace whether Frederick and Arthur had any children. I think Arthur was married to Gwen, but not sure about Fred.

You need the marriage cert of Louisa and Edward to make a start as that will give you Edward;s name and (hopefully) details of his father and his occupation.

Was Edward Cole the father of William Kitchenham? There seems to be a big gap between the brothers ...

Jill

yeah edward was the father of william,

william kitchenham was born before they got married so had louisa's name. then frederick was born after marriage so had his dads name and so was arthur. but im not sure where arthur came into it as i cannot find details of him anywhere. its just my dad told me about my great grandfather william and is two brothers.

is there no other way you can find this info out without purchasing certificates, as ive just lost my job and am very skint at the moment, so cant really afford to do that!!

Not really. Up to 1901 you might be able to find people on the census returns - and they might be the right family. In some cases, with rarer names, it can work.

After 1911 the mother's maiden name is added to the birth certs of the children so you can see that when you search on FreeBMD and again, in some cases, you can work out where the family is.

Trouble is, although this might work, you might have strong evidence of some of the facts, you ultimately need a bit of proof - the odd certificate etc - otherwise you can easily end up researching totally the wrong tree and there's not much point in that.

A cert is £7 if you order through GRO. Could you not try and get a sibling, cousin, aunty or someone interested in your family tree and maybe they'll help a bit with the costs?

Jill

There is this birth off ancestry

: William Edward Kitchenham
Registration: 1905
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Maidstone
Kent



MARRIAGE


Edward Cole 1907 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Maidstone Kent
Louisa Emily Kitchenham 1907 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Maidstone Kent