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Thanks to a collegue of yours I found the threads and you! Census from 1851, Copford, Essex. Puts Susannah aged 11, with her family, her sister Maryanne is our Gt Gt Grandmother,
I can see what you mean re:-dates perhaps she needed to drop a few years at some time, wouldn't we all like to do that!
The Birth and Marriage also could be correct, but why would some one keep a card in a Bible which gives her name as Susannah Delsall loving sister of Emma Cranfield. Also there being talk of an Aunt living in Canada.
I found it interesting that a George Delsall leaving Liverpool in 1893, On the tips Board the 19th Jan. Lynne says, a Susannah married a George Dalsell living in Yorkshire, I wonder if its the same person? again thank you for your help, What does p.m rmean re;- my e-mail addrress

Grace
Kathryn means for you to contact her by pm (send private message with your e mail address) because you should never put your e mail on open boards like these.

Thanks Margaret, yes I had realised,I should not give my address over on the boards, so how do I do it if I don't know her address!! I am sure there will be a simple answer, I will get the hang of this one day, I hope.

Just click on Kathryn's name and this will open a box that you can send a message straight to her personally and not appear on the boards

Thanks to every one especially Kathryn B for your help, I had a breakthrough today, A second cousin picked up the search and tells me that Susannah's maiden name was Balls not Cranfield, it was her sister Emma who married a Cranfield. She does not no either why she went to Canada. or whether she had any family, Her marriage in June 1865 was to George Dellersall (different spelling to mine) so with all your help and advice it looks as if we are nearly there. Beth

Alrighty, a confirmed fact!


Marriages Jun 1865
Alliston Mary Ann Lexden 4a 403
>> Balls Susannah Lexden 4a 403
>> Dellersall George Lexden 4a 403
Manning John Lexden 4a 403

... and still not a Dellersall or anything resembling it in any Canadian record at Ancestry ...

And that is the single, one and only Dellersall record in the entire transcribed GRO index at FreeBMD. And in the entire Ancestry database, all countries combined.

It's clear on the GRO image though: Dellersall.

Wonder what it *really* was. ;)

So, I'm considering Delasalle as what Dellersall might really have been. It isn't actually a common name in Canada, but it's a possibility.

So I search the 1871 English census for Susannah Del* and I find this one:

Name: Susanna Delasall (it actually says Delasalle)
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Cambridgeshire, England

Civil Parish: Birch
County/Island: Essex
Country: England


but really, that's no match.

Still no death in 1893 in Ontario ... and I so much do not want to go searching at other province's sites ...

Oo! Do you suppose George was Italian, and he had a son with the same name who was in the 1901 Canadian census??

Name: George Delasalla
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 36
Birth Date: !! Sep 1864
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Sophia
Immigration Year: 1888
Racial or Tribal Origin: Italian

Okay, that's getting silly ...

So there's nothing in New Brunswick. Nothing in Manitoba. A fuzzy search for Dellersall in British Columbia produces a marriage:

Groom Name: Louis Henry Delesalle
Place New Westminster
Reg. Number: 1917-09-128986 Copy Available
Bride Name Marie Theres Delagiroday (not)
Date: 1917 8 15 (Yr/Mo/Day)
Event: Marriage
Microfilm #: B11383 (GSU # 1983976)


and the deaths of those two people and what would be their son.

Closest things in Nova Scotia are a couple of entries for Deller/Dellers and Delass.

The Delasalla (probably should be Dellasalla) children in BC show up in the 1911 census with deceased parents, apparently:

Francis Delaselle 8
Oscar Pekasella 10
Ethel Pekasella 6
Victor Pekasella 5

(and you thought the English transcriptions at Ancestry were bad)

There are 47 De la Salle listings in the Cdn phone book today ...

Checked the old Cdn censuses for De la Salle, La Salle and just Salle. There are some, but none of obvious interest to us.

In the Ontario deaths, there are Salles, la Salles, Dela Salles, but again, no Susannah. Ditto NS, NB, BC, Manitoba.

Google finds not one result for Dellersall. Soon, it will return this thread ...

I can't think of a single other thing to try. I really do think that "Dellersall" is a mis-hearing or mis-writing of something else, and De la Salle seems like a reasonable guess.

You're going to get the certificate, right?? At least then we'd have George's age and father's name ...

Okay, so, listen.


In 1871 we have that Susannah Delasalle, lodger, unmarried, born c1848 in Cambridge (the image says Chambridge), and I think it says she's a seamstress.


In 1881 we have:


Name: Susannah Dalsall
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Fordham, Essex, England
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Tailoress

Name: George Dalsall
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Susannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Copford, Essex, England
Occupation: Labourer (Fl)

Civil Parish: Manningham
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: 207 Kensington St

Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Horton
ED, institution, or vessel: 87


Now, are these looking like the same Susannah?

And like your Susannah? And the George Delsall aged 47 who travelled to Canada in 1893?

They do to me, I say.

I would:

(a) get the marriage certificate
(b) get the original image for the passenger list to Canada in 1893

and see whether there's anything at all to be learned from them.


Unless I've gone off the deep end here completely, and now that you've found out that she was Susannah Balls, you've lost interest in her!!

You have done a great job, Susannah's family are from Fordham, so that looks correct. Also you mention Birch in Cambridgeshire, there is a village, Birch couple of miles away from Fordham I guess someone may have the wrong County, we are in Essex.
I will send for the cert, and also the passenger list, and if you don't mind will keep in touch, and let you no how I get on, regards, Beth

Oh, I'm dying of curiosity as usual, so do please let us know how you get on!