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Vanishing Children Mystery

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Findingmypast

Findingmypast Report 25 Nov 2009 17:47

Vanished ! - the children of George Fitzjohn ( born 1868 in Uppingham , Rutland ) & Minnie ( nee Burditt , born 1870 in Rothwell near Kettering in Northamptonshire ) - married Kettering 1896 .

They are with their parents on 1911 census ( all born in Little Bowden in Market Harborough area of Leicestershire / Northamptonshire ) :

Reginald John ( Born 1898 )

Musa Annie ( 1899 )

Craven ( 1904 )

Victor Mears ( 1906 )

Boris Burditt ( 1909 )

Thomas M. ( 1913 )


I can find the death of daughter Iris Alice Fitzjohn ( 1902 - 1917 , in Market Harborough ) but no deaths & only one possible marriage in 1949 ( for Thomas Fitzjohn )...all seem to vanish ( on FreeBMD,anyway ).

Did they emigrate ?

Any help with this very elusive family would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks !

Penny

Penny Report 25 Nov 2009 17:53

Maybe you need to try full index on Ancestry

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 25 Nov 2009 17:59

hi dont know if you have this just incase
1901 census

Address 41 Northampton Rd
Civil Parish Little Bowden
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish Little Bowden St Nicholas
Parliamentary Borough or Division Northamptonshire
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Market Harborough
Administrative County Leicestershire
Householder 1
Name George S Fitzjohn
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 32
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Commercial Clerk
Employment Status
Where Born Rutland Elaston
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Louisa Fitzjohn
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 1
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Northants Little Bowden
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name Minnie Fitzjohn
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 31
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Northants Rushton
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name Reginald J Fitzjohn
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 3
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Northants Little Bowden
Language
Infirmity

Findingmypast

Findingmypast Report 25 Nov 2009 18:03

Hi Polly Poppet

Yes i do have available census info. ( i think you may have helped when i was originally researching this family a month ago ).

Thanks

Gee

Gee Report 25 Nov 2009 18:09

UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
about Reginald John Fitzjohn
Name: Reginald John Fitzjohn
Residence: Leicester
Death Date: 16 Jul 1917
Enlistment Location: Market Harborough, Leicester
Rank: BDR.
Regiment: Royal Horse Artillery and Royal Field Artillery
Number: L/28849
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Aldershot


British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920
about Reginald J Fitzjohn
Name: Reginald J Fitzjohn
Regiment or Corps: Royal Field Artillery
Regimental Number: L/28849



England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2005
about Victor Fitzjohn
Name: Victor Fitzjohn
Birth Date: 23 Jul 1906
Death Registration Month/Year: Jan 1988
Age at death (estimated): 81
Registration district: Market Harborough
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume: 6
Page: 2416



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LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 25 Nov 2009 18:12

Hi Roy

Only Boris marriage on Ancestry ( that I can see! )

Name: Boris B Fitzjohn
Spouse Surname: Olive M White
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1932
Registration district: Conway
Registration county (inferred): Caernarvonshire
Volume Number: 11b
Page Number: 948

Cassy

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 25 Nov 2009 18:16

poss

Name: Victor Fitzjohn
Birth Date: 23 Jul 1906
Death Registration Month/Year: Jan 1988
Age at death (estimated): 81
Registration district: Market Harborough
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Volume: 6
Page: 2416


Cassy

Findingmypast

Findingmypast Report 25 Nov 2009 18:18

Thanks Ginny

I did worry that Reginald may have been a casualty of WW1 , as he was the only one old enough.

Does the info. say about what battle he may have been killed in ?

Many thanks for other info. on Victor Fitzjohn.

Hi Cassy !

Thanks for info. on Victor + Boris' marriage - did he have any children ?

Gee

Gee Report 25 Nov 2009 18:23

Hi Roy

Thats the only info the war record gives Im affraid.

The other deaths of the children that you cant find may not have been transcribed yet so it means looking through the indexes, which is a 'nasty' job!!

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LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 25 Nov 2009 18:25

There's 4 births in Ware and Hertford, BUT all reg well before 1932 marriage.

Cassy

Gee

Gee Report 25 Nov 2009 18:28

You'll find a photograph and details of his grave/headstone on here....

http://www.twgpp.org/information.php?id=1251560

Ginny
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MargaretM

MargaretM Report 25 Nov 2009 18:28

On CWGC site which is free it says where he is buried:

Name: FITZJOHN
Initials: R J
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Bombardier
Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery
Unit Text: 55th Bty. 33rd Bde.
Date of Death: 16/07/1917
Service No: L/28849
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Sp. Mem. A. 24.
Cemetery: RAILWAY DUGOUTS BURIAL GROUND

It's in Belgium.

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 25 Nov 2009 18:31

Military Genealogy.com
As CWGC gives no parents,as was the case with my Grandfather,but found him on this pay per view site.

ellieathome

ellieathome Report 25 Nov 2009 18:41

Regiment, Corps etc
Royal Horse Artillery and Royal Field Artillery

Battalion/etc


Surname
Fitzjohn

Christian Name
Reginald John

Initials
R J

Born


Enlisted
Leicester

Residence
Market Harborough, Leicester

Rank
BDR.

Number
L/28849

Died Date
16/07/1917

Died How
Killed in action

Theatre of War
France & Flanders

Supplementary Notes

Sorry never came up with parents

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 25 Nov 2009 19:47

You may find this interesting...From Leics.Family Memorial (WW1)..his name is obviously on the family grave.

FITZJOHN. Bombadier REGINALD JL/28849. 55th Bty. 33rd Bde. Royal Field Artillery.KIA. 16th July 1917. Age 19. RAILWAY DUGOUTS BURIAL GROUND. MARKET HARBOROUGH (NORTHAMPTON ROAD) CEMETERY

Findingmypast

Findingmypast Report 25 Nov 2009 21:10

Many thanks to everyone who took the time to read this & helped with tracking down Reginald Fitzjohn's death in WW1 , death of Victor Fitzjohn & marriage of Boris Fitzjohn.

It is very much appreciated.

If anyone is still reading , i have found on Ancestry's free search facility that a Craven Fitzjohn appears on New South Wales,Australia,unassisted immigrant passenger Lists 1826 - 1922.

A Thomas Fitzjohn appears on Canadian Passenger Lists 1865 - 1935 & an Annie Fitzjohn ( Musa Annie maybe ? ) also appears on Canadian lists + Border Crossings from Canada to USA 1895 - 1956.

Can anyone look at these entries for me & see if details match - up with my Fitzjohn family members, please.

Many thanks !

EDIT

Many thanks to Cassy for extra details added below.





MargaretM

MargaretM Report 25 Nov 2009 21:51

That previous to last message is a little misleading, making it sound as if Railway Dugouts Burial Ground is in Market Harborough. It's in Ieper, West Vlaanderen, Belgium.

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 25 Nov 2009 22:34

poss death

BORIS B FITZJOHN AGE 58
JUN Q 1965
BATH
VOL: 7C
PG: 27

The age is a little out but your Boris is the only Boris Fitzjohn coming up on births on freebmd. The ink is a bit blobby also.

Cassy

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 25 Nov 2009 22:38

poss for Boris' wife??

Births Jun 1909 (>99%)
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WHITE Olive Mary Spilsby 7a 559




Name: Olive Mary Fitzjohn
Birth Date: 20 Feb 1909
Death Registration Month/Year: Nov 1995
Age at death (estimated): 86
Registration district: Loughborough
Inferred County: Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire
Register number: 43D
District and Subdistrict: 6011
Entry number: 230

Cassy

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 25 Nov 2009 22:43

Name: Mr C Fitzjohn
Birth Date: abt 1904
Age: 24
Port of Departure: Brisbane, Australia
Arrival Date: 9 May 1928
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Melbourne, Sydney, Adelaide, Colombo, Port Said, Naples, Gibraltar, Fremantle, Southampton
Ship Name: Oronsay
Search Ship Database: View the 'Oronsay' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Orient Line
Official Number: 147948


Gives his occup as Farm Labourer and address Northampton Rd, Market Harboro' Leics

Cassy