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Caroline

Caroline Report 10 Sep 2010 11:07

Please could sombody help me find the birth certifcate for Lilian Mary H Greaves who died Mar Q 1904, Woodstock aged 0. Her father is definately my G-grandfather but i want to find out who her mother was. My G-grandfather was Ralph Henry Handley-Greaves and he was supposed to have married Kaziah Wilkes but I have not found a marriage cert for them either. Any help would be appreciated.

Mark

Mark Report 10 Sep 2010 11:08

Have you had a look on Freebmd.. Ancestry

Caroline

Caroline Report 10 Sep 2010 11:10

Yes both sites.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Sep 2010 11:13

looks like only her death was recorded , maybe she died very soon after birth so only her death was recorded

jolee

jolee Report 10 Sep 2010 11:13

Ralph died in the April quarter of 1925 and there is a probate dated 1925, if you can hold a copy of the will it might help you.

Caroline

Caroline Report 10 Sep 2010 11:14

She was about 9 mths old and died of spina bifida.

Caroline

Caroline Report 10 Sep 2010 11:15

How do I find out about the will? Where do I go?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Sep 2010 11:16

there must have been other children so getting one of their birth certs will help

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Sep 2010 11:17

Ah, 9 months old so her birth should have been registered ,have you looked under Wilkes

Caroline

Caroline Report 10 Sep 2010 11:19

My grandads birth cert shows the correct parents as we know them but I don't think they were ever married. We were always led to believe that Ralph Henry was disinherited because he went off with the maid so Lilian may not have the same mother as my grandad.

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 10 Sep 2010 11:19

This site gives instructions about how and where to apply for a copy of a will or order of probate proven between 1858 and the present.

www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms/1226.htm

Caroline

Caroline Report 10 Sep 2010 11:21

Thanks for the info

Caroline

Caroline Report 10 Sep 2010 11:30

I have just answered my own question. Been on 1911 and on there it states that my G-G parents had 2 children and one was now dead. So Lilians parents are the same as my Grandads.

jolee

jolee Report 10 Sep 2010 12:19

Was Handley-greaves his birth name or just greaves as both Ralph and Lillian are on the bmd's under G, Ralphs father William was also a H Greaves

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Sep 2010 15:55

it looks like they didnt register her birth!

tempest

tempest Report 10 Sep 2010 18:51

on the National Probate Register in 1925,

Ralph Henry Handley Greaves widow is Keziah Lavinia Handley Greaves

jansmith

jansmith Report 10 Sep 2010 19:21

does it say how many years married on 1911 census? where and when were they born?
this one for info
Name: Keziah Lavinia Wilkes
Year of Registration: 1881
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Shipston On Stour
County: Gloucestershire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6d
Page: 688

tempest

tempest Report 10 Sep 2010 19:37

1911 census - household transcription for reference

Person: GREAVES, Keziah
Address: Middles St Bishopstoke Hampshire


Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born

GREAVES, Ralph Head Married M 36 1875 Private Means Oxford Banbur
GREAVES, Keziah Wife Married 8 years F 30 1881 Warwick Tysol

tempest

tempest Report 10 Sep 2010 19:42

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Keziah Lavinia Wilks
Name: Keziah Lavinia Wilks
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1881
Christening Date: 28 Aug 1881
Christening Place: Tysoe, Warwickshire, England
Father's Name: Charles Henry Wilks
Mother's Name: Edith

tempest

tempest Report 10 Sep 2010 19:58

1901 England Census
about Kezia L Wilks
Name: Kezia L Wilks
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles H Wilks
Mother's Name: Edith Wilks
Gender: Female
Where born: Tysoe, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Bourton
Ecclesiastical parish: Bourton All Saints
Town: Great Bourton
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England



Registration district: Banbury
Sub-registration district: Cropredy
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 111
Household Members: Name Age
Charles H Wilks 50
Edith Wilks 44
Harry R Wilks 21
Kezia L Wilks 20
Bertrend B J Wilks 14
Edith M Wilks 12
Purser Wilks 9
Lionel E Wilks 7
Glayds M M Wilks 4
William P Toms 27
Martha E Toms 23
William C Toms Under 1 Month


Kezia is a dressmaker