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Samantha

Samantha Report 10 Oct 2010 13:41

hi im very new to all of this so any advice would be great, i have been given my great grandmothers birth certificate, it looks like the original, it is slightly useless as it has none of her parents names on it, her name is elizabeth hancox and she was born oct28th 1900, in wolstanton stoke-on-trent, could she have been adopted or something, also any clues as to where i go from here, i have tried to find free cencus records online but dont know if you can actually get these, kindest regards sami

Gee

Gee Report 10 Oct 2010 13:43

Was she Eliz Ann?

1901 England Census
about Eliza A Hancox
Name: Eliza A Hancox
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1899
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Hancox
Mother's Name: Jemima Hancox
Gender: Female
Where born: Norton Canes, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Norton
Ecclesiastical parish: Norton St James
Town: Norton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England


Registration district: Cannock
Sub-registration district: Cannock
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 227
Household Members: Name Age
William Hancox 39
Jemima Hancox 41
William J Hancox 15
John T Hancox 13
Mary E Hancox 11
Emma Hancox 9
Henry L Hancox 8
Rebecca Hancox 5
Eliza A Hancox 2
Anne M Hancox 1 Month


I think the address is Legh St...whats the address on the certificate?


Kay????

Kay???? Report 10 Oct 2010 13:45

You may have what is known as **short certificate**,which just gives bare information,dates names,,
to get the full birth of parents etc,you will need to buy the full version..

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 10 Oct 2010 13:47

Does she have a middle name and which district was she born?

It sounds as though you have a "short" birth certificate - usually a small square certificate rather than the oblong one. Many people just got this one because I think it was either free or cheaper than the "full" certificate.

There are three possible births in the right quarter of 1900.

Kath. x

Gee

Gee Report 10 Oct 2010 13:48

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Elizabeth Ann Hancox
Name: Elizabeth Ann Hancox
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Wolstanton
County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 78 (click to see others on page)

Ethel

Ethel Report 10 Oct 2010 13:49

Hi.If it is a little red one about 6inch wide, this is the cheaper version that many people took, but if you apply for a full copy giving all the info from that certificate, along with the Vol Number and page. (lkike 4a 560??) it will cost you £9.50. and you can get it from the registry office or from the Central registry. Southport. Lancs. Ethel.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 10 Oct 2010 13:53

Well done Ginny. I didn't read the post properly and missed the place of birth.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 10 Oct 2010 14:02

I don't think the family Ginny found in the 1901 census is the correct one as that Elizabeth A. Hancox is 2 years old and your Elizabeth would only be about 6 months old at the time of the 1901 census.

Kath. x

Gee

Gee Report 10 Oct 2010 14:05

Yeah Kath that did cross my mind too.

I just wonder if Sami has any info Elizabeths siblings or can cross ref that street address?

It could have marked wrong on the census...well thats what I was hoping!

x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 10 Oct 2010 14:08

I have sent a message to Samantha just in case she doesn't know how to get back to her thread as she says she is new to all of this.

Kath. x

Gee

Gee Report 10 Oct 2010 14:28

Good thinking Kath

x

Samantha

Samantha Report 10 Oct 2010 19:24

hi sorry i have found out that she was born in wolstanton stoke on trent, the birth cert only states were she was born, the registra and her name and date

Samantha

Samantha Report 10 Oct 2010 19:25

yes elizabeth ann hancox

Samantha

Samantha Report 10 Oct 2010 19:27

all i know is her name dob, which is 26, oct 1900, and she was born wolstanton, stoke on trent

Samantha

Samantha Report 10 Oct 2010 19:31

quite sadly i dont know anything, this is where im stuck, i wanted to not have to pay for census records but looks like i may have too, the certificate is about 6 inches oblong by 4 inch yellowy looking,

Gee

Gee Report 10 Oct 2010 19:36

So where have you got her name from...this might help us

Do you know who she married?

x

jansmith

jansmith Report 10 Oct 2010 19:39

1911? if someone could look at one it could be her
HANCOCK ELIZABETH F 1900 11 Wolstanton Staffordshire

jansmith

jansmith Report 10 Oct 2010 19:44

if you have details of her children i.e your line back to her you might find the right connections ,her marriage cert should give fathers name.

jax

jax Report 10 Oct 2010 19:53

1911 census - household transcription
Person: HANCOCK, Elizabeth
Address: 42 Linehouses Goldenhill Staffordshire

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HANCOCK, Albert Head Married M 45 1866 Miner Coal Hewer Wolstanton Staffs VIEW
HANCOCK, Mary Elizabeth Wife Married
20 years F 40 1871 Wolstanton Staffs VIEW
HANCOCK, Herbert Son Single M 19 1892 General Labourer In Mine Wolstanton Staffs VIEW
HANCOCK, Thomas Son Sengl M 18 1893 General Labourer Below Ground Wolstanton Staffs VIEW
HANCOCK, Francis Daughter Single F 16 1895 Mould Runner Wolstanton Staffs VIEW
HANCOCK, Eliza Daughter Single F 15 1896 Stamper Warehouse Wolstanton Staffs VIEW
HANCOCK, Jessie Daughter F 13 1898 Paper Cutter Wolstanton Staffs VIEW
HANCOCK, Elizabeth Daughter F 11 1900 School Wolstanton Staffs VIEW
HANCOCK, Beatrice Daughter F 10 1901 School Wolstanton Staffs VIEW
HANCOCK, Emily Daughter F 8 1903 Wolstanton Staffs VIEW
HANCOCK, Mary Daughter F 6 1905 Wolstanton Staffs VIEW
HANCOCK, Alice Daughter F 4 1907 Wolstanton Staffs VIEW
HANCOCK, Alfred Son M 3 1908 Wolstanton Staffs VIEW
HANCOCK, Annie Daughter F 2 1909 Wolstanton Staffs VIEW

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Gee

Gee Report 10 Oct 2010 20:02

Thanks Ja..x and Jan

1901 England Census
about Elizabeth Hancock
Name: Elizabeth Hancock
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1900
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Albert Hancock
Mother's Name: Mary E Hancock
Gender: Female
Where born: Sandford, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Goldenhill
Ecclesiastical parish: Goldenhill St John
Town: Latebrook
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England


Registration district: Wolstanton
Sub-registration district: Tunstall
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 219
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Hancock 35
Mary E Hancock 30
Herbert Hancock 9
Thomas Hancock 8
Frances Hancock 6
Eliza Hancock 5
Jessie Hancock 3
Elizabeth Hancock 1
Beatrice Hancock 1 Month


You still need the full birth cert

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