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Gayle
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1 Jun 2010 17:42 |
my nan name was hidden born in yardley worceshire, birmingham
1894 her sister was called bessie, and brotherjoe any one please help her father was ainsurance agent named james thankyou
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1 Jun 2010 17:47 |
1901 England Census about Joseph Hidden Name: Joseph Hidden Age: 5 Estimated birth year: abt 1896 Relation: Son Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Bromsgrove, Worcestershire, England Civil parish: Yardley Ecclesiastical parish: Sparkhill St John Town: Greet County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street Address:
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View image Registration district: Solihull Sub-registration district: Solihull ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 105 Household Members: Name Age James Hidden 37 jobbing gardener ? Mary Hidden 38 Jane Hidden 10 James Hidden 15 Joseph Hidden 5 Emily M Hidden 7 Rose Hidden 8 Sarah M Hidden 1
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Astra
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1 Jun 2010 18:03 |
1911. Children are the same. Mary is the same but James has changed into William Henry??
HIDDEN, William Henry Head Married 27 years M 39 1872 Farm Labourer Tipton Staffs VIEW HIDDEN, Mary Wife Married 27 years F 49 1862 Wednesbury Staff VIEW HIDDEN, William John Son M 10 1901 School Birmingham VIEW HIDDEN, Sarah Mary Daughter F 12 1899 School Birmingham VIEW Registration District: Kidderminster Sub District: Wolverley Enumeration District: 4 Parish: Wolverley Address: Whites Building Foundry Bank Cookley County: Worcestershire
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2 Jun 2010 12:36 |
1881 looks as if he is in service as quite a few other people in the household but have not printed them all
Susan BROOK Serv U Female 20 Malvern, Worcester, England Kitchen Maid Dom Elizabeth COOKE Serv U Female 26 Newent, Gloucester, England Stillroom Maid Dom James HIDDEN Serv U Male 18 Hanley, Stafford, England Boots Dom Anne M. ELTON Serv W Female 35 Birmingham, Warwick, England Housemaid Dom
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Worcester Road Trafalgar House Census Place Great Malvern, Worcester, England Family History Library Film 1341700 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2920 / 47 Page Number 24
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Gayle
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3 Jun 2010 20:19 |
hi A big thankyou for all the in fo and work put into it, i have found some more info ,bessie married walter herny try ,
the try family come from staines , my late nan was emily maud hidden, so i know bessei and emily maud are sisters, but she said she had only 1 brother called joe,i amtrying to find where bessie was born and see if her parrents are the same as my nan which is herny james hidden and wife mary holton that her maiadden name i do hope you can understand what i have put thankyou so much gayle
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MaureeninNY
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3 Jun 2010 22:34 |
?? 1901 census transcription details for: 14, Egham, The Hythe, Egham (Surrey), Egham
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG13 Piece: 1165 Folio: 54 Page: 52 Reg. District: Windsor Sub District: Egham Parish: Egham (Surrey) Enum. District: 2 Ecclesiastical District: Egham St John the Baptist with St Jude's Englefield Green City/Municipal Borough: Address: 14, Egham, The Hythe, Egham (Surrey), Egham County: Berkshire WRIGHT, Elizabeth Wife Married F 39 1862 Letting Apartments Great Bridge Staffordshire HIDDEN, Bessie Niece F 12 1889 Castle Morton Worcestershire
Name: Elizabeth Hidden Age: 23 Estimated birth year: abt 1888 Spouse Name: Walter Henry Try Occ:Engineer Spouse Age: 27 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 26 Dec 1911 Parish: St Mary, Staines County: Surrey Borough: Spelthorne Father Name: James Hidden Occ:Gardener Spouse Father Name: William Try
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3 Jun 2010 22:53 |
Oh! That's interesting. It looks as though "Bessie" was unofficially adopted by the Wrights. Henry Wright was one of the witnesses at her marriage to Walter Try.
1911 census transcription details for: The Old Bridge Cottage the Hythe Egham RG14PN6685 RG78PN333 RD125 SD1 ED1 SN123 Reg. District: Windsor Sub District: Egham Parish: Egham Enum. District: 1 Address: The Old Bridge Cottage the Hythe Egham County: Berkshire JOYNER, Arthur Boarder Single M 35 1876 Commercial Traveller Surrey BRIGGS, Alice Visitor Single F 30 1881 Buyer London WRIGHT, Henry Head Married M 53 1858 Cab Proprietor Gayton? WRIGHT, Elizabeth Wife of Occupier Married F 49 1862 Letting Apartment Dudley Ports? WRIGHT, Bessie Daughter Single F 22 1889 Sewing At Home Worcestershire
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Gayle
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4 Jun 2010 14:02 |
h imaureeninNY thankyou so much for your help.i am bit confused about elizebeth and bessie, are the same personss or am i missing the plot, did elizbeth marry walter try od did bessie marry him, so sorry about this, gayle
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MaureeninNY
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4 Jun 2010 14:40 |
Hi Gayle, "Bessie" is a nickname for Elizabeth. So the 1888/9 "Bessie" married Walter Try. I could be wrong,but I have a feeling she was actually born as: Name: Harriet Elizabeth Hidden Year of Registration: 1888 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Upton Upon Severn County: Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 303
HTH, Maureen
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Gayle
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4 Jun 2010 17:06 |
Thankyou very much for the reply, would it be possible to find Harriet (bess) Elizabeth Hiddens birth certificate with her parents names signed on there by any chance as that would be extremely helpful in discovering if her mum was actually Mary who married James and became the Hiddens.
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MaureeninNY
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4 Jun 2010 17:17 |
I think you're going to have to buy the birth certificate for that!
Maureen
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Gayle
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4 Jun 2010 17:21 |
How would I go about doing that do you know? Thanks for the speedy reply, much appreciated. I'm wondering whether Mary is her mum and whether thats her first name or a middle name like Harriet Elizabeth is known by her middle name not her forename?
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MaureeninNY
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4 Jun 2010 18:13 |
Hi Gayle, Well,my thinking was that she dropped the Harriet somewhere along the line! I don't see another likely birth in the area. You can order certificates from: http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
Maureen
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Gayle
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4 Jun 2010 20:20 |
hi marreeninNY i do so appreate the work which has gone into this surname hidden,
my nan who was emily maud hidden who parents was james and mary hidden,
who is elibeth wright who took on harrit elibeth hidden at the age of 12, who was E wright married to,i m not sure weather H E HIDDON IS MY NANS SISTER , SO SORRY ABOUT THIS IM STILLCONFUSED
THANKYOU SO MUCH GAYLE
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MaureeninNY
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4 Jun 2010 21:41 |
That's the million dollar question,isn't it!
I have a feeling that Elizabeth Wright may be Mary Hidden's sister. Finding a marriage to Henry Wright isn't easy! What was Mary's maiden name? Have you found the marriage certificate for her and James?
Maureen
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Gayle
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5 Jun 2010 15:33 |
hi marreeninNy its me again
my nan emily maud hidden lived at 15 populor rd spakeshill woreshire born 1894 how do i find out how long she lived there and who live d there ,before she went to 15 percy rd. i think now that harriot elizebeith or bessie moved out of there to this elizibeth kright because shes not on the list of percy rd,
im sorry i maybe asking to many questions but thankyou for your help im goingh to get the marrige lines of james and mary next week ,i hope xxx
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MaureeninNY
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5 Jun 2010 23:58 |
Uh-yes-do get the marriage cert. You obviously have Emily Maud*s birth certificate.
I'm still a little bit confused, Was Emily's Mum"s maiden name difficult to read?
Maureen
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Gayle
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6 Jun 2010 10:56 |
hi maureeninNY
emily maud parents are James hidden/ mary holton and at time of marrige they were living at 15 populor rd sparkshill yardley.
im still lookingfor mary holton and where she lived before she came mary hidden,then i might be able to find out why ELIBETH WRIGHT had bessie hidden living with her from the age of 12yrs
thnkyou very much for your helpx
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MaureeninNY
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6 Jun 2010 13:23 |
That is puzzling,Gayle. I just don't see a marriage for HOLTON and HIDDEN. But you say that at the time of their marriage they were living at 15 Poplar Rd? (or did you mean when Emily was born that's where they were living?) I do hope that H.Elizabeth's birth certificate will shed a little more light on the subject.
Best, Maureen
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Gayle
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6 Jun 2010 14:08 |
hi emily maud hidden was at 15poplar rd sparkshill yardley, at time of birth
herdad was aassurance agent, her mum is called mary holton, now it could be holtom, the writng id birth cert is abit hard to read,
I am unable to find elibeth wrights maiden name , thats the lady that took on bessie hidden when she was 12,
im sorry for the confusing data i feel now that we wou,t get very far with this hidden family and i know im am asking a lot of qustions . gaylexxx
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