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Hodges, Portsmouth, 1841 census?

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CRIPES_A_MIGHTY

CRIPES_A_MIGHTY Report 20 Oct 2008 10:11

Hi

Please could someone look up a John Hodges living in Portsea
in the 1841 census?

He was born 1830( possible 1828) I believe, so he will be 11..
Hoping he will have sister Elizabeth and brother George.
Elizabeth born 1813 and brother george born 1818.
Though with their ages they may not be at home in 1841.
But he may have other siblings.

Possible parents Henry & Elizabeth...but unsure.

I am hoping to confirm John had sister Elizabeth and brother George. This wil confrim a lot of things for me..and really help sort my tree.

Many thanks in advance.
Regards

Paul

CRIPES_A_MIGHTY

CRIPES_A_MIGHTY Report 20 Oct 2008 10:16

Elizabeth I believe married a George Capper...but was married before this as I can't find a George Capper marrying an Elizabeth Hodges..so her surname may have been different at time of marriage meaning a possible second marriage.

I had found her living in London with George with a George Hodges visiting. He is down as brother in law in 1881 census.

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 20 Oct 2008 10:22

?

Name: John Hodges
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Gender: Male
Where born: Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Portsea Town
Hundred: Portsmouth Borough
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub registration district: Kingston and Landport
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Gribble 45
Elizabeth Gribble 40
Elizabeth Hodges 50
John Hodges 12

Ericthered

Ericthered Report 20 Oct 2008 10:25

What else do you know about John?

Did he marry? If so, what info does the cert give about his father?

CRIPES_A_MIGHTY

CRIPES_A_MIGHTY Report 20 Oct 2008 10:26

Many Thank Ericthered :0

Interesting.....looks like Elizabeth was widowed by then....I know John was born around 1828 1830..lol..
looks like slap bang in the middle..:)
Possibley late 1829 and register 1830...

GREAT STUFF!

Cheers!

Shame It doesnt confirm the siblings..but it does give me something more to to on.

Thanks!

Paul

CRIPES_A_MIGHTY

CRIPES_A_MIGHTY Report 20 Oct 2008 10:28

John married a Ann Hardiman in 1854.
They were living at 20 Hertford St, in Portsea.

Getting the marriage cert would help I know...but finances and very limited...these damn perscriptions cost a bomb and I'm not working at the moment.

CRIPES_A_MIGHTY

CRIPES_A_MIGHTY Report 20 Oct 2008 10:32

Ann Hardiman is conected to the Meetyard name.
Very rare here in UK...
And looks like they have relations in the US.
Im awaiting confirmation of link to the US Meetyards.

They say if I have a Meetyard in the family...then its 99% chance we are related.

Katherine Meetyard would be my Grt Grt Grt Grandmother..I think....lol.

:)

ElizabethK

ElizabethK Report 20 Oct 2008 16:11

Boogie

How about this?

Marriage 12 December 1814 at St Mary Portsea
Henry HODGES
Elizabeth INGS

Childrens baptisms all entered as belonging to Henry & Elizabeth Hodges

12 Feb 1815-Eliza St Mary Portsea
02 Jun 1816-Henry St Mary Portsea
21 May 1820-Ann St Mary Portsea

12 Dec 1829-Hannah St John Portsea
02 Apr 1832-John St John Portsea

Baptisms
08 Mar 1791-Henry HODGES s Thomas & Elizabeth
at Titchfield

04 Jan 1795-Elizabeth INGS d Henry & Ann at Soberton

Buriel
16 Oct 1825-Henry HODGES 34 at Portsea

There is no marriage for an Elizabeth Hodges before 1837.

So who is the daddy of Hannah & John ?!!

CRIPES_A_MIGHTY

CRIPES_A_MIGHTY Report 20 Oct 2008 22:04

Hi Elizabeth,

Many thanks for the reply.
Sorry have not got back sooner..been more researching etc..and updating me tree.

Need to look at this to see if theres anything there..

Many thanks for your in put..all help most welcome and appreciated.

Regards
Paul

CRIPES_A_MIGHTY

CRIPES_A_MIGHTY Report 20 Oct 2008 22:16

Really looking for possible parents of :

Elizabeth Hodges 1813, George Hodges 1818, John Hodges 1829.
I am (sure) assuming they are siblings.
George was visiting or staying with Elizabeth in the 1881 cenus with possbile second husband George Capper.

Living at, 16 Queens Cottages, East Ferry Rd, Poplar, London, in 1881 census.

John Hodges had a son John born 1855 and daughter Elizabeth born 1858. Again Portsea
John was a butcher and his son looks to have followed him into the trade.

Im sure there must be more siblings because of the age gap between George and John.

Any help would be great.
Cheers!

CRIPES_A_MIGHTY

CRIPES_A_MIGHTY Report 20 Oct 2008 22:27

Ok..update.

Possbile other siblings.

Elizabeth 1816, William 1821, Martha 1822, James 1823, Hannah 1833.

Though I think the Elizabeth should be 1813.

ElizabethK

ElizabethK Report 21 Oct 2008 08:20

Paul

How old is the Elizabeth on the 1881 census?

The one bearing children in 1813 would be pretty old in 1881

Do you think these children were all born in Portsea?

CRIPES_A_MIGHTY

CRIPES_A_MIGHTY Report 21 Oct 2008 09:54

Hi Elizabeth,

Sorry not answered quicker..again been sorting me tree. :)

Ok..here the 1881 census of Elizabeth

Name: Elizabeth Capper
Age: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Portsea, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Poplar
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: East Ferry Rd 16 Queens Cottages
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: Subscribe now to see this information.
Occupation: Shipwrights Wifee

Registration district: Poplar
Sub registration district: Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Capper 68
George Capper 76
George Hodges 63

It says George Hodges is brother in law..as George Capper is Head of household.

CRIPES_A_MIGHTY

CRIPES_A_MIGHTY Report 21 Oct 2008 09:56

Im sure this is a second or even possibly a third marriage, as i cant find an Elizabeth Hodges marrying a George Capper..so...?

Im sure they are all born Portsea

CRIPES_A_MIGHTY

CRIPES_A_MIGHTY Report 21 Oct 2008 10:04

According to Ericthered's 1841 census post.

Looks like all have left home except John..as he's to young. Plus mum, Elizabeth is a widow..I assume as there no husband.

Wonder who the Gribble's are?

ElizabethK

ElizabethK Report 21 Oct 2008 14:41

Paul,

I am getting confused!

How can Elizabeth Hodges be 50 in the 1841 census with John 12 and be 68 in the 1881 census?

Have you got the right family?

A George Capper married an Elizabeth Cunningham in 2nd Q 1848 (Free BMD) and they are in the 1861 and 1871 cenus' with a large family and in 1861 have a niece Elizabeth Cunningham living with them--at Portsea.

I do not have access to the 1851 census-is ericthered still with us?!!

There is a death registration on Free BMD for an Elizabeth HODGES in the 4th Q 1846.

What names did John give his children-may be a clue there!!

Clutching at straws

ElizabethK

ElizabethK Report 21 Oct 2008 15:49

I deleted that-got in a muddle!

ElizabethK

ElizabethK Report 21 Oct 2008 15:54

Paul

Was your John Hodges a John William Hodges?

A John William Hodges was baptised at Portsea 25 Oct 1829 s John & Charlotte
They had an Elizabeth bapt 15 Oct 1826 and buried 11 Feb 1827 - inf- at Portsea

There were no other children Charlotte was buried 18 Sept 1831 age 28 and John was buried 27 Dec 1835 age 44

CRIPES_A_MIGHTY

CRIPES_A_MIGHTY Report 23 Oct 2008 10:38

Hi Elizabeth,

Sorry didn't realize you had added more info.

Got side tracked.

Paul

CRIPES_A_MIGHTY

CRIPES_A_MIGHTY Report 23 Oct 2008 13:06

Im sure Henry Hodges & Elizabeth Ings are the parents.

My John Hodges 1930 married.

Marriages Sep 1854
Hodges John William Portsea 2b 576
HARDIMAN Ann Portsea 2b 576

Then had a son John Hodges 1855 and daughter Elizabeth Hodges 1858.

Births Sep 1855
Hodges John William Portsea Island 2b 311

Births Mar 1858
Hodges Elizabeth Emma Portsea 2b 346

I believe he married.Not sure which.

Marriages Sep 1877
Hodges John William Portsea 2b 726
Monkcom Fanny Hoskings Portsea 2b 726
Reed Ellen Portsea 2b 726


And Elizabeth married

Marriages Jun 1878
Hodges Elizabeth Emma Portsea I. 2b 797
JOHNSTON James William Portsea 2b 797

I am most interested in who John Hodges 1930 parents were, and possible siblings?

Paul