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Andy,
How very kind of you to thank all of us.

Enjoy your holiday in Cornwall!!

Best,
Maureen

hi evey one my 6 months membership come to an end in week or so time i won't be renewaling my membership
right way as

going on a week hoilday to lovley conrwall(ie bude) just a fab place but one i back and got my routine settle in i def rejoined for the whole year

as all you people have been a big hep to me with the time and effort you put into helping people like me
so i just want to say a very big

T H A N K Y O U TO YOU ALL

ANDY

thank you for you time and troubel, that you spent, on it i do apprctie the time and effort one put in

so i thank you again,

andy

LADYFIELD TERRACE
and
BOLLIN WALK

are both in Wilmslow in 1911.

Unfortunately there are several households on each of them, and no Gavican or Quinn among them.


I searched in the 1881 census (which can be searched by address) and found that Bollin Walk is in a place called Bollin Fee, in Wilmslow subdistrict, Bucklow district.

I searched the 1901 for everyone in Bollin Fee born 1870-1880, but they just aren't there, it seems. :(

I looked around for both of them in 1901 in England for quite some time this afternoon, with no luck at all. (Trying by first name only, last name only, as Teresa or Bridget or Delia, etc etc.) I also looked for their deaths, as all possible names, but no luck with that either!

One thing to note is that the spelling of Irish surnames in English records can get a little wonky.

It's worth keeping things like GAVIGAN and GAVIGHAN in mind too, and then of course Ancestry mistranscribes it as things like GARICAN.

sorry fo the typo, is should read 1790 (which make more sense, got bad eyesight, from dinking to much beer) hee,ee

good evening janey

i will try and make myself a lltttle clearer this time as english and maths were never my stonger subject at school, so here i are the detail as i see them

my grandmothre was acooriding to the our marriage certificate in 1905 in which they both age 30 at the time, when they got married.


her full name was
tresea birget gavican

which is on the 1905 cetiifacte that i have and and for some reason unknow to me,(yet to be found out) delia. show up as his wife for six years

on the 1911 cenues, and not bridget tresea gavican,
who one would assume should be on it,

and plus on the 1905 marriage cretifcte that i have it name a micheal for the father and their is no mention of a john for the father,,

but she was married to a john quinn who father was james quinn he was a famer
as both father were famers,
.
i know it very complicate that why i want to asking all you good people to help make sense of it all,

hear a litllbit of extra information
johne quinn was living at bodoen walk or bollen walk wilmslow(writing ver faint)
and she was living at
ladyfeild treance wilmslow (writing very faint)

hopeing with luck i might of made my self a littler clear this time
sorry for the confurison,
i aprrecation any help i can get you been great,and a real thelp to me without people like you would not be where i am now, as on my mother side gone bac to 17090 which is dare more ever hope for.,
andy

I checked the parishes available in the IGI, at Hugh Wallis's batch number site.

In 1911:
John Quinn was born in Ballyhaunis, county Mayo
"Delia" was born in Delvin, county Westmeath

Neither one of those places is included in the batches in the IGI.

So searching at familysearch.org for their births isn't going to find them, unfortunately.

Ooooh, I don't think any of that makes any sense!

For the name Bridget Gavican, the IGI has two births/christenings:


Bridget [Gavican]
Christening: 03 AUG 1843 Roman Catholic, Strokestown, Roscommon, Ireland
Father: Michael Gavican
Mother: Mary Murry
Batch No.: C701711

This one is way way too old to be the one who married in 1905,. You can't subtract 30 *twice*! Someone who was about 30 in 1905 was born about 1875. Not 1843!


The other one is

Bridget Gavican
Birth: 30 NOV 1874 , , Ireland
Father: John Gavican
Mother: Honoria Tiernan
Batch No.: I024675

Now, that one was "submitted" by someone. There is no confirmation that it is true.


But -- you're looking for a Teresa, who married in 1905, not a Bridget, aren't you??

Oh, except I see that on the 1912 birth certificate, the mother was called "Bridget"?

i think i finaly track down micheal gavican but would like conformation that i have the right one, i found micheal married to marry murry who have a bridget gavican in 1843,
so that mean that birget is just two years out, with age on the marrige certifcert i have for 1905

i found him using family search.org

batch no
c701711
dates 1830-1862
source call no. 0989745

type film
printout call is none
and the next one is type (but noting found)
so i petty certian this could be them but it would be nice to just have it confirm,
from sombody else,
as bridget was age 30 in 1905 so if you take 30 away from around 1875
and if you add 30 to 1843 1873 so only two year out, and see i can't any other michael for her father, i hope i have hit the jackpot witht this one, which meam great grand parents, i have possible found thank you
andy

Not getting this with Delia though Andrew..?

Quinn / Gavican marriage 1905
Quinn/ Gavican birth 1912

not seeing where a second marriage figures?
am I being thick lol

If the John married to Delia was married 6 years by 1911 and is the right one ...then 'Delia' Must be Teresa Gavican..there is no second wife??

thank you so much answering the question and for help me clear it up,

tresea bridget was the wife on the the marrige cretife

in 1905on the marriage cretificate as to the birth creitficate of james quinn i

have a cretified copy of an entry of birth issued for

the purpose of unemployment insureances act

sorry for the confused try to fraze it better next time

as it difficulit for me as i sudffer with the writting

disoder it not bad ( but from time to time) i tenb to

transpoese letter, (dylsiex) as you might of known, so please forgive any

mistake on my part and thank for clearing the age question up,

up, that make a lots of sense,

and againgi thank you all,

it mentinion his name his father and bridge his wife

my father james was born on 12 june 1912 john
john quinn

was his fatrhew
alogn with his brothrer matthew and john

accoriding to the 19 11 cenesus deila quinn was his wife for six years,
and they may of parted company ie
possible got a divoiced

LOL! Rose-sometimes I wish my name were Delia.

I guess Andrew has to get a certificate of some sort. That's where I get confused again. Does he have the birth certificate for 1912??

Maureen

There are no deaths that tie in for a Delia Quinn

Maureen from the original threads re Quinn, ( i remember it because of the irish names lol) ..this marriage

Marriages Mar 1905 (>99%)


GAVICAN Teresa Bridget Bucklow 8a 303

Quinn John Bucklow 8a 303

followed by

Births Sep 1912 (>99%)


Quinn James Gavican Bucklow 8a 270

So I really am not sure about 'Delia'

Hi Andrew,
I'm getting a little confused as well!!! Are Teresa Bridget and "Delia" the same person?
You refer to a second wife. Who was the first one?
And do you have James (1912) birth certificate?

(We can be really annoying with all our questions too!!)

As for ages on the certificates-well-our ancestors didn't have to provide ID like we do so often,so a lot of it was "guesstimate".

Best,
Maureen

please I

have a question and want your opion and hope that you may be able

to answer it, thankyou

my gradfather was, john quinn but according to the 1905

married cretifacte i have for bridget gavican he was 30 year old,

but as above you can see on the 1911 census when he was with deila it stated his age and her age were 38

so how can they be 8 year older in 1911 and 30 year old in

1905
how can that be or is my maths wrong,(which proable is,) i

know his fathe is a james quinn, farmer,

it say that it the rank of his father,on the cerfitfate

all the rest fit enven my dad ie B .james quin in 1912

so i just wondering if i have the wong john quinn or is just a mistak on the 1911 cenesus,

everthing add up to being the right

person, even down to the same town,and aear could they

be out

that much on the age, front, in 1911

i would like any suggestion please

to make sure i have the right perosn

and thank you

,

thank for all the toruble taking,and sorry to put you to so much troube know better next time,

and big thank you,

Andrew it seems most likely that as john was born Ireland (a nd I can't find him on any English census with his father) that his parents were Irish and stayed there,

I had a quick look on the Free irish census 1901,it may be worth looking at that and seeing who might fit age wise?

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

Not very well up on Irish birth certs etc, so perhaps someone else can advise you on that here.

when i recived the second wife marrige cretificate the father name was james quinn

his second wife you know was called tresea brigdet tresea

gavican her father was a micheal gavican

spouse tresea bridget suname agrees with the birth of james b 1912
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