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7 Dec 2007 16:17 |
I can't find Jane Hempstead/Hempstead's birth but Jane's mother's maiden name was Pryor and she married in 1858. I wonder if Jane was born before they married as below? Just a thought
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Births Mar 1857 (>99%) Prior Jane Huntingdon 3b 253
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7 Dec 2007 15:53 |
Hi Gillian
1861 Census: North End, St John Huntingdonshire J Hempstead 1834 Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire, Head, Book Seller Ann Hempstead 1831 Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire, Wife Jame Hempstead 1858 Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire, Daughter Henry Hempstead 1860 Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire, Son Civil parish: St John Town: Huntingdon County/Island: Huntingdonshire Registration district: Huntingdon Sub-registration district: Huntingdon Source: RG9; Piece: 975; Folio: 93; Page: 3
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Mar 1858 Hempstead Joseph Huntingdon 3b 356 Pryor Ann Huntingdon 3b 356
1851 Census: Priory Lane, Huntingdon St Benedict Huntingdonshire Henry Hempstead 1796 Brompton, Huntingdonshire, Head, Journeyman Carpenter Mary Hempstead 1800 Amersham, Huntingdonshire, Wife Joseph Hempstead 1833 Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire, Son, Labourer Rheuben Hempstead 1840 Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire, Son, Scholar Mary Hempstead 1841 Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire, Daughter, Scholar Civil parish: Huntingdon St Benedict County/Island: Huntingdonshire Registration district: Huntingdon Sub-registration district: Ramsey Source: HO107; Piece: 1748; Folio: 518; Page: 36
1861 Census: Germain St, St Benedict Huntingdonshire Henry Hempstead 1799 Broughton, Huntingdonshire, Head, Journeyman Carpenter Mary Hempstead 1800 Somersham, Huntingdonshire, Wife Civil parish: St Benedict County/Island: Huntingdonshire Country: England Registration district: Huntingdon Sub-registration district: Huntingdon Source: RG9; Piece: 975; Folio: 56; Page: 19
Joseph Hempstead Christening: 09 APR 1832 All Saints,St John, , Huntingdon Parents: Father: Henry Hempstead Mother: Mary Source Information: Batch No.: C168872 Dates: 1813 - 1876 Source Call No.: 1040637 IT 1-5, 7-8 Type: Film
Everything above is spelt as it has been type transcribed.
Regards
Gillian
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7 Dec 2007 15:02 |
Henry/Harry's birth but I can't see Jane's Birth - If it is the right Jane she is listed as 2 years older than Henry/Harry in 1861. I don't think they are twins. It doesn't list Henry's illness in 1871
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Births Jun 1860 (>99%) Hempstead Henry Huntingdon 3b 259
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7 Dec 2007 14:50 |
In 1871, the family are not showing Harry in their household - perhaps because he is in hospital. 1871: Harry aged 12 in hospital - do we know why? - born 1859/60 - same year as Jane - or a year apart! Are they twins??? Can we find their birth registrations?
Jane calls her 1st born son Harry.
Thanks Kay
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7 Dec 2007 14:39 |
This looks like Henry or Harry
1871 - a patient at the County Hospital
Harry Hempsted Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Patient Gender: Male Where born: Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire, England Civil Parish: Huntingdon St Mary County/Island: Huntingdonshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Huntingdon Sub-registration district: Huntingdon
1881
Name: Harry Hempstead Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relation: Nephew Gender: Male Where born: Huntingdon, Huntingdon, England Civil Parish: New Sleaford County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address: 24 Carre St Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Coal Merchants Clerk Registration district: Sleaford Sub-registration district: Sleaford ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Sarah J. Castledine 18 Edward J. Catling 17 Jane Gibson 57 Joseph Gibson 58 Harry Hempstead 21
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7 Dec 2007 14:26 |
I think the only certain link is through the cert, which I presume is below. I also notice the absence of Heny in 1871 and will look for him
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Marriages Dec 1878 (>99%) FOWKES Thomas Leicester 7a 496 HAMPSTED Jane Leicester 7a 496
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7 Dec 2007 14:19 |
Sorry - havent got the cert yet.
Only found out about her recently through a connection with a 'relative' who had Thomas Fowkes in their tree and the info about his marriage to Jane.
I see that in 1881 her father is lodging n a public house where his son George is a servant. In 1881 Jane is in Pasture Lane, Leicester. with Thomas Fowkes 20-shoe hand, (Jane 22), & son Harry 1.
Wonder how she came to be in Leicester?? Gill
ps I notice 1861 a Henry aged 1 and he is not in the 1871 census??
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7 Dec 2007 13:30 |
Do you have her father's name and occupation from her marraige cert?
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7 Dec 2007 13:24 |
This is the possible father Joseph in 1881. He was lodging at a public house and his son George was a servant
Name: Joseph Hempstead Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Huntingdon, Huntingdon, England Civil Parish: Huntingdon St Benedict County/Island: Huntingdonshire Country: England Street address: St Germain St Fox & Hounds Condition as to marriage: Widow Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Brewer Registration district: Huntingdon Sub-registration district: Huntingdon ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John Carter 68 John Hall 30 George Hempstead 16 Joseph Hempstead 47 Edward Marshall 31 Elizh. Marshall 48
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7 Dec 2007 13:20 |
Hi Gill
The first family I posted was for 1871 - they were more diffucult to find in 1861
Best Wishes Kay
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7 Dec 2007 13:16 |
Thank you so much - particularly for finding Harrys death.
It may be the same family. - not sure yet?? If we can see her in the 1871 census - may help.
Thanks Gill
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7 Dec 2007 13:05 |
Harry's death
Deaths Jun 1883 (92%)
Fowkes Harry 2 Leicester 7a 165
I can't see a Jane Hampstead that would fit on the census but if the Hempstead record is correct this looks like Jane's parents marriage
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1858 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hempstead Joseph Huntingdon 3b 356 Pryor Ann Huntingdon 3b 356
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7 Dec 2007 13:01 |
Possibly the same family 1861
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Name: Jame Hempstead Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: J Mother's Name: Ann Gender: Female Where born: Huntingdon, Huntingdonshire, England Civil Parish: St John Town: Huntingdon County/Island: Huntingdonshire Country: England Street address:North End
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Huntingdon Sub-registration district: Huntingdon ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Ann Hempstead 30 Henry Hempstead 1 J Hempstead 27 Bookseller Jame Hempstead 3 All born Huntingdon
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7 Dec 2007 12:57 |
In 1881 she is listed as born in 1859 and this is the nearest I can find in 1871 - will relook at 1861
me: Jane Hempstead Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Joseph Gender: Female Where born: Huntingdonshire, England Civil Parish: Huntingdon St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Huntingdonshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Huntingdon Sub-registration district: Huntingdon ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 46 Household Members: Name Age Anne Hempstead 3 Flora Hempstead 7 George Hempstead 4 Jane Hempstead 15 Joseph Hempstead 40 Hawker All born Huntingdon
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7 Dec 2007 12:51 |
Can anyone take a look at the 1861, census please & find: Jane Hampstead c1860 Huntingdon, Cambs
particularly interested in finding details of her parents & siblings. She later married a Thomas Fowkes from Leicester & moved there. I can find her 1st son Harry born 1881 - but cant see him later - can anyone find out if he died please (between 1881-1891)?
Many thanks
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