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Hi Paula - what I was trying to do was direct you to the person with the same couple as you:
Phineas Lee married Betsy Barnard in 1911.
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1021885
You two seem to be in the same boat there, but maybe two heads?
You can send her a private message via her name in that thread if you want to catch her eye.
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Thank you for the replies and i see what you mean about confusing. Sorry about that.
Amelia Maria Lovage married Joseph Barnard in 1902 in Dartford Kent,
They had the following children:
Jane Amelia Barnard 1903 Dartford
Rose Barnard 1906 Dartford
Betsy Barnard 1908 maidstone
known as Boxer about 1910-1914 either born in Kent or West Ham, Essex.
Charles Barnard 1915 West Ham
John Barnard 1925
Phineas Lee married Betsy Barnard in 1911.
Phineas (1891) is the son of David Lee (1842)
David is son of Zachariah Lee (1779) Zachariah is my 4* g-grandfather
Belcher Lee (1851) is the son of Sylvester Lee (1826)
Sylvester is the son of Zachariah lee (1779)
I have found lots of information on the Lee side via Census and parish records and Help from other Lee members thank you.
I have also started finding information on the Lovage side,
but it is the Barnard side that is giving my headaches so anyone with links, help or advice to the Barnards would be greatly welcomed.
have joined a few romany and travllers sites.
take care
Paula
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Try Rootschat click on Travelling people, maybe of some help.
Malibu. (Kushty bok)
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Romany and traveller family history society
http://website.lineone.net/~rtfhs/contents.html
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Aha! I just searched for "amelia maria lovage" after seeing your post in Sue in Sunny Worthing's thread about her Barnards.
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1021885
In that thread, I linked to this one that I remembered:
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1021885
"I'm trying to find any information on Elizabeth Barnard, born around 1892 in Hoo, Kent, so I was led to believe. She married a romany man called Phineas Lee and they had children called Jane,Rose, Robert (Bobby) and Emily. I know they eventually lived, in what was known at the time as Cherry Island-Plaistow"
It sounds a lot like you and Sharon have the same Barnards and Lees. You have "phielas lee" -- Phineas?
Unfortunately your post is a bit too much just a bunch of names strung together when it comes to the Barnard-Lee connection. But you might want to put your head together with Sharon and see you might have in common.
Do try to punctuate your sentences, or maybe just put separate thoughts on separate lines. It's really hard to make sense of run-on thoughts like:
"also have links to a belchor lee phielas lee maybe a amos taylor close links to i know jane barnards sisters were betsy (robinson) rose (walsh) had brother known as boxer, charlie barnard and john barnard"
I can't make head nor tails of that one!
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which country are we dealing with?
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ok first with my grandad
his francis lee born 1919 died 1980
his dad was francis lee 1899 he married christina caroline barker,
his dad was zacharia lee 1844-1910 married louisa williamson 1859-? mariage ?
his dad was job lee 1821- 1910 married maria 1922 marriage?
his dad zachariah lee 1797-1899 married rosetta ? 1801
his dad david lee 1762 married sophy/sophie stanley 1765
were believed to have settled in custom house heard of cherry island in 1850's i heard that had stables in leys rd? links martindale rd custom house?
now for my nan amelia ellen mccabe
also romany gypsy daughter of jane barnard (maiden name) sidney mccabe (father)
janes parents are amelia maria (lovage) and joesph barnard,
some how have links with steele and taylors any advise welcome.
also have links to a belchor lee phielas lee maybe a amos taylor close links to i know jane barnards sisters were betsy (robinson) rose (walsh) had brother known as boxer, charlie barnard and john barnard
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