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I know just how you feel Ziggy. I did it with not 1 but 2 great grandparents. Thankfully both are now on track.

1851 census definitely match up with my info. The Robert Holmes born in Abergavenny was my g grandfather. So I am now on the right path again.

Thanks to everybody who is so willing to help us all
Cheers

Can I appologise to all the people who helped me researching the original Holmes's Family. I am So Sorry For This Blunder.

regards

Jean Ziggy

HELP ME HELP ME HELP ME. PLEASE

I have just discovered that I have made one masive blunder.

I have been following the wrong holmes family . So I have to start again going back from 1864.

I HAVE MY G.GRANDFATHER MARIIAGE CERT.
HIS NAME WAS ROBERT HOLMES
AGE ON MARRIAGE CERT.22
PROFESSION. CARRIAGE INSPECTOR
ADDRESS. 15 BROOK SREET, MANCHESTER
HIS FATHERS NAME. THOMAS HOLMES /PENSIONER

HIS WIFE'S NAME. ALICE FLETCHER
AGE 20
SPINSTER
ADDRESS HAMPPEOT??? (I am unable to make this word out ))
FATHERS NAME . JOSEPH FLETCHER./ BRICKLAYER

MARRIAGE DATE 20 MARCH 1864
ST.JOHNS CHURCH MANCHESTER/

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I have plenty of info from 1841 to 1911.
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I am now wondering if this is the Holmes's i should have been tracing back on. But I cannot find anything in the 1941 census matching up with them.. But They could have been in anywhere looking at where their children where bron

1851 Census.
Shed. No. 92 . 7, Mason Street, Salford, Regent Road.
Thomas Holmes 47. /Chelsea pensioner porter b. Ireland
Mary Holmes 38 .........b.Ireland
George Holmes 21. . Machine Maker..b.Scotland
John Holmes 19........Silk Warper...b.Ireland
Thomas Holmes .....13..Silk Warper ..b. Middlesex, Hounslow
Robert Holmes. 10 Scholar...b. Abergavenney. Wales
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OK thanks for all that. This research really does take one over don't you think.

Cheers

Ziggy

Hi again,

When I looked at that marriage cert I decided the witness could well be James Odonell (now that is what you would REALLY call bad writing !!) The other witness is on other certs so I think he was either an 'official' or a paid witness.

I did look on 1841 for James Odonell and there are a few who fit but nothing to help us connect.

Dea x

Thank you everybody who has helped me i am now sure that The thomas Holmes and Mary Burton are me ancestors. and that it was there marriage cert. What would I do without you all.

Cheers
Ziggy.

Thanks a million it came through..

Ok how about if you can make out the name of the witness to the marriage it looks like James O???????

I am really pleased about this.

Ok Thanks have sent it.

Just reply to the pm I sent you, then nothing shows up here in the thread.

Or click on my name here to open a pm window. Your email address won't show here.

Yes thats ok do I just click on your name here to send my e.mail add. I dont want my e.mail advertised on this open page.

Ziggy,

I've pmed you. If you're happy to give me an email address via pm in reply, then I'll send a copy of the register page scan to you.

no I dont have access to ancestry. does ancestry give you the ref. for the marriage certficate. If so i would be able to order it.

hi

I have looked at the marriage on anceste=ry and gone right in close to the name and it looks like Burton to me. It is definately BU at the beginning not a r

hope this helps
Ann

Do you have access to Ancestry? If so, you can view the marriage cert on there!

It does say BURTON but again, she made her mark and the official wrote down what he heard!

Dea x

Oh!!!!! Just realised theres no way of finding out the entery on a marriage register. So I cannot even do that. What a nightmare.

What do you think I might find out if I send for the marriage cert. ??????

Yes . its very frustrating I even thought of sending for one of the younger childrens birth cert but then I realised that they have to be born from sept 1837 to get info so that was out of the question. Do you ever think that you are not meant to know something. It drives me mad. Yes and even thought maybe the registrar couldn't spell

Thanks for all the help you have all given me.

Cheers Ziggy

BROOTON it Is !! Janey.

I have to say, the marriage also looks good, SO..... either her name was mis-written on the marriage cert, or on the birth cert.

OR.. It is a different marriage and 'our' couple were married in Ireland??

Either way, we will probably never know.

Dea x

The thing is it really does say BROOTON, no guess there. It's just that Mary didn't know how to write her name, and that's what the registrar heard. Remember, she was Irish. ;)