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Hi
I am having trouble finding birth of Eliza Manning born 1845-1848c in Suffolk/Norfolk area. I have found her in a census living with my GGgrandfather Joseph Fountain it stated that Yarmouth was her place of birth and their first born son in Marylebone. I am unable to trace back to her parents etc. Does anyone tracing the Mannings have any knowledge of this lady

regards
Tina

What about this birth?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Eliza Manning
Name: Eliza Manning
Year of Registration: 1844
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Mutford
County: Norfolk, Suffolk
Volume: 13
Page: 475 (click to see others on page)

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1861 England Census
about Eliza Manning
Name: Eliza Manning
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1844
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Lound, Suffolk, England

Civil parish: Lound
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Mutford
Sub-registration district: Lowestoft
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 43
Household Members: Name Age
William Manning 36
Eliza Manning 17
James Manning 13
Ellen Manning 10
John Manning 8
Harriette Manning 6
Mary Manning 4


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1881 census - household transcription
Person: FOUNTAIN, Eliza
Address: 29, Johnson St, St Pancras
FOUNTAIN, Joseph Head Married M 38 1843 House Painter
Marylebone
Middlesex VIEW
FOUNTAIN, Eliza Wife Married F 34 1847
Yarmouth
Norfolk VIEW
FOUNTAIN, Joseph Son Single M 12 1869 Scholar
St Pancras
Middlesex VIEW
FOUNTAIN, Mary Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar
St Pancras
Middlesex VIEW
FOUNTAIN, Edward Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar
St Pancras
Middlesex VIEW
FOUNTAIN, Harriet Daughter Single F 1 1880
St Pancras
Middlesex

1871 census - household transcription
Person: FOUNTAIN, Eliza
Address: Exmouth St, Pancras

FOUNTAIN, Joseph Head M 29 1842 Middlesex VIEW
FOUNTAIN, Eliza Wife F 24 1847 Norfolk VIEW
FOUNTAIN, Joseph Son M 2 1869 Middlesex VIEW
FOUNTAIN, Mary Daughter F 0 1871 Middlesex VIEW
KOUPE, Susannah Boarder F 28 1843 Cambridgeshire VIEW
KOUPE, Alfred Boarder M 0 1871 Middlesex

Do you have their marriage?

Hi LadyKira
Many thanks for the help but what I am really looking for is a marriage around 1868 to Joseph Owen Fountain
It is this I'm stumped on as I cannot go back in history without knowing when the marriage is
For sure I did know where they lived and it still exists in Pancreas Middlesex I've got photos but I really need the marriage or her birth certificate to chase that line

regards and thanks once again Tina (Karens mother)

Well you have just added an extra piece of info there.

Sometimes we have to collect the possible material then examine it to rule things in or out.

Births Mar 1842 (>99%)
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Fountain Joseph Owen Marylebone 1 252

Many thanks for your support I do have the birth cert of Joseph Owen Fountain on 2nd Feb 1842 but I cannot find the marriage at all and its such an unusual middle name too

I have tried to look at variations but am not having much luck

There is a tree on Ancestry with lots of info but none about the marriage

Maybe they didn't marry

Hi maybe this is the case but maybe its mispelt wish I could find the answer

Name: Joseph Alfred William Fountain
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 3 Aug 1868
Father's Name: Joseph Fountain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Painter
Mother's Name: Eliza Fountain
Parish: St Pancras Old Church
Borough: Camden
County: Middlesex
Clarendan Pl
DOB: 9/07/1868

23 aug 1882 4 of their children were baptised

I had a good look and couldn't see anything...the chances are if the married it would be in London seeing as Joseph & the children were born there....& Eliza probably came to London to work

Where have you Eliza's surname from & did you see the info that Ginny posted

edward john james 1 nov 1874

harriet ada augusta 24 12 1879

Hi thanks for this info I do have the birth certs and on all of them its states that Eliza was definately Fountain when the children were born and not Manning but of course we all know that not everyone actually got wed

You have brought up Old Church and that is new info for me so thanks can you find a wedding at this church ?

george reuben charles 20 jun 1882