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Terence

Terence Report 13 Sep 2009 22:52

I have got my grandmothers birth cert. born Annie Postlethwaithe,3sept1895 reg 1st nov1895 by her "sister" M.J.Postlewaite.her mother Charlotte Emma died on October27.
I have death cert for charlotte emma,
birth cert.Annie plus Arthur 12 may 1893
Mum formerly McKinstry
I have tracked Annie and Arthur in a workhouse and then Annie in a home. Sorry this is all in Barrow.
On death cert it said wife of Thomas Postlethwaite but I cant find a death in1895 can some one find a marriage
Arthur went to Canada to work with and live with his brother in law ( on census)Sarah ann must be another sister but was she a postlewaite or McKinstry
Charlotte died aged 35yrs. so I think she had some other children apart from Arthur and Annie but what name did they come under
Who was M.J Postlewaite (daughter) present at death
Can any of the souls out there help me
thank you
terry

Linda

Linda Report 13 Sep 2009 23:00

Just to muddy the waters, there are two annies born 1895 in lancashire:

Name: Annie Postlethwaite
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Emily
Gender: Female
Where born: Rampside Barrow, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Barrow in Furness
Ecclesiastical parish: Rampside St Michael
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Barrow in Furness
Sub-registration district: Barrow in Furness
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
James Postlethwaite 29
Emily Postlethwaite 31
Annie Postlethwaite 5
Thomas Postlethwaite 3
James Postlethwaite 2
John Postlethwaite 4 months
Frank Newton 21
George Simpson 16
Francis A Crabtree 19

Regards Linda :)

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 13 Sep 2009 23:00

For info only

Name: Charlotte Emma Postlethwaite
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Year of Registration: 1895
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 35
District: Barrow in Furness (1876 Onw)
County: Cumbria, Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 635

Terence

Terence Report 13 Sep 2009 23:00

No name was given which makes me wonder she lied about being married to Thomas . She marked Arthurs birth with a cross.
it makes me think!!!!
T

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 13 Sep 2009 23:00

On death cert it said wife of Thomas Postlethwaite but I cant find a death in1895 can some one find a marriage

Whos death cant you find in 1895?

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 13 Sep 2009 23:07

Is any maiden name recorded for Annie's mother?

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 13 Sep 2009 23:08

Maybe?

Births Dec 1879 (>99%)
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McKinstry Mary Jane Barrow F.

Terence

Terence Report 13 Sep 2009 23:13

Sorry to dampen you but that annie born 1896 mine 1895 you will find her in a workhouse in 1901 with Arthur ( this is where we found him because she had talk of having a brother) we have her in 1911
Can onyone find the mariage of Thomas Postlethwaite to Charlotte Emma
T

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 13 Sep 2009 23:22

1916 Canada Census of Manitoba, Saskatchewan, and Alberta
about Sarah Dobson
Name: Sarah Dobson
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Age: 31
Est. Birth Year: 1885
Birthplace: England
Year of Immigration: 1912
Home in 1916: 14C, Calgary West, Alberta
Address: Ex Shaw
racial_or_tribal_origin: English
Relation to Head of Household: Wife
Household Members: Name Age
John E Dobson 39
Sarah Dobson 31 <<<<<<year of immigration 1912
Lilly Dobson 9
Alene Or Aolena Dobson 7
Jessie Dobson 6
Bertha Dobson 4
Gladys Dobson 1
Arthur Postlethwaite 23


A

Terence

Terence Report 13 Sep 2009 23:23

I cant find a death of Thomas within 9 months of Annie's birth.
Only Mum is on Arthurs birth cert.This is what made me think. because she was dead before Annie was Reg. this was done by sister age?????
Thank you ViviennexxYngxxNghymru I think you may have found M.J. Do you think this was her maden name or she was married to a Mc Kinstry

Terence

Terence Report 13 Sep 2009 23:29

M.J. reg. annie,s birth could she be six at her mothers death and her sisters birth

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 13 Sep 2009 23:33

Marriages Dec 1905 (>99%)
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DOBSON John Edward Lancaster 8e 1369
POSTLETHWAITE Sarah Lancaster 8e 1369

Terence

Terence Report 13 Sep 2009 23:34

Freewheel, it said McKinstry on her death cert but we are not sure if this is her maiden name or another married name as the children she had under Postlethwaite she was already in her thirties. We think we may have found some earlier children.
Terry

Terence

Terence Report 13 Sep 2009 23:47

Thank you ViviennexxYngxxNghymru

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 13 Sep 2009 23:56

Maybe the Dobson/postlethwaite marriage would be of help,also maybe to find the Dobsons on 1911 before they went to canada..
viv

Linda

Linda Report 14 Sep 2009 00:37

Can you give us thomas's occupation from one of the birth certs? No marriage so far between 1860-1890, however there is a thomas on the census with a wife elizabeth. Ignore that, just realised you only have fathers name on arthurs cert, unless there is an occupation given?

The only birth I can find for a charlotte mckinstry is on family search in 1859 in armagh ireland. There is nothing coming up for a marriage between her and thomas postlethwaite from 1860/90, and no other census records that I can find. If the birth for mary jane is correct, and it seems to be, then why can't we find a mary jane and mother on the 1881/91 census?? Back to the drawing board.

Regards Linda :)
regards Linda :)

Linda

Linda Report 14 Sep 2009 06:51

could it be that a 6 year old could get her mums name wrong?

Name: Emily Postlethwait
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Barrow in Furness
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Barrow
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Barrow In Furness
Sub-registration district: Barrow in Furness
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Emily Postlethwait 31
Mary J Postlethwait 12
Elizabeth Postlethwait 9
Sarah A Postlethwait 8
Thomas Postlethwait 5
Ferdinds Postlethwait 3

Regards Linda :)

Terence

Terence Report 14 Sep 2009 11:56

That looks good Hoping, no father on birth certs.
Widow of Thomas Postethwaite an Iron Moulder Journeyman was on Charlotte Emma death cert.
Maybe we can find them under the other spelling

Terence

Terence Report 14 Sep 2009 12:26

I cant find Thomas Postlethwaite death in 1895 as Annie was born in September it would have to be the same year

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 14 Sep 2009 13:07

If that Mary jane Mckinstry is right,which of course is only guessing,then she would have been 16 not 6 in 1895,so where does the age 6 keep coming from?

Maybe Thomas Postlethwaite died years before,or she just left him, and she just kept having kids,never remarried and reged them under that surname,as my greatgran did with all her brood of illegitimates,including my gran.

Linda.~~~~ Not long til your hols now..