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Martyn

Martyn Report 23 Oct 2009 12:53

Hi
I'm trying to find the siblings of Georgina McMillan b 31/12/1876 Bridgeton Glasgow & her husband David Cameron b 07/08/1886 Bridgeton Glasgow. Any help would be appreicated

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Oct 2009 13:08

As you have their exact dates of births, do you have their parents' names from the birth certificates please?

Rallyreg

Rallyreg Report 23 Oct 2009 13:17

Could this be them, as it's the only Georgina & David that I could find:

Name: David Cameron Age: 22 (abt 1879)
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Georgina
Gender: Male
Where born: Forres, Elginshire
Registration Number: 136
Registration district: New Spynie
Civil parish: New Spynie
County: Moray
Address: Rosebrae Leigate
Occupation: Farm Servant Ploughlman
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 28
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1901_41
Household Members: Name Age
Georgina Cameron 23 (abt 1878) Duffus, Elginshire
Mary Nisbet Cameron 2 (abt 1899) Birnie, Elginshire
Jessie Cameron 10 mo (abt 1900) Birnie, Elginshire

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 23 Oct 2009 13:19

Do you actually mean 'siblings' (brothers and sisters)? Or are you looking for their offspring?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Oct 2009 13:23

Rallyreg

Elgin is pretty far away from Bridgeton, Glasgow.

I don't see a Suitable Georgina either! I have even looked for an Ina as this is most likely what she would have been known as.

There are not that many McMillan families in Bridgeton - a few more MacMillan's and lots more of each in the neighbouring district of the Calton.

Martyn

Martyn Report 23 Oct 2009 13:23

Hi
David's parents were William Cameron b1853 St Cuthberts Edinburgh d20/03/1931 Glasgow he married Isabella Blair on 13/04/1874 & she was born c1852 in Perthshire & died 05/03/1930.
Georgina's parents were George b 1866 Glasgow & died 22/04/1881, his wife was Elizabeth Algie born 1852 & died 22/04/1881 glasgow.
hope this helps

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 23 Oct 2009 13:25

I think you need to do some checking on the date info your are posting - the dates just do not tally!

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 23 Oct 2009 13:27

1891

Name: David B Cameron
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Isabella
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/1
Registration district: Bridgeton
Civil parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 47 Reid St
Occupation: Wood Turner
ED: 11
Household schedule number: 37
Line: 12
Roll: CSSCT1891_238
Household Members: Name Age
William Cameron 38
Isabella Cameron 39
Rachel Cameron 16
David B Cameron 15
Jane Mcl Cameron 12
Janet Y Cameron 10
Mary B Cameron 8
John Cameron 6
William Cameron 4
Helen B Cameron 1
William Cameron 19

Martyn

Martyn Report 23 Oct 2009 13:28

Freewheel, sorry I meant brother & sisters
Rallyreg, I don't think it is them

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 23 Oct 2009 13:31

That's OK - just making sure - many people think siblings are a person's children!

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 23 Oct 2009 13:35

is this Georgina's mother in 1871? Just to get a 'handle' on these people

Name: Elizabeth Algie
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relationship: Daughter
Parent's Name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Neilston, Renfrewshire
Registration Number: 572/1
Registration district: Neilston
Civil parish: Neilston
County: Renfrewshire
Address: Wesharts Land
Occupation: Mill Worker
ED: 7
Household schedule number: 15
Line: 18
Roll: CSSCT1871_101
Household Members: Name Age
Mrs. James Algie 36
Elizabeth Algie 18
William Algie 15
Janet Shaw 22


EDIT:

Probably not - this looks like her in 1881

Name: Elizabeth Colquhoun
[Elizabeth Algie]
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : James
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Neilston, Renfrew
Registration Number: 572/1
Registration district: Neilston
Civil parish: Neilston
County: Renfrewshire
Address: Waterside Workers House
Occupation: Laundress
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 48
Line: 10
Roll: cssct1881_171
Household Members: Name Age
James Colquhoun 28
Elizabeth Colquhoun 27
Mary Colquhoun 4
Mary Algie 57
John Algie 33
Mary Algie 32
James Algie 9
Mary Algie 1


Martyn

Martyn Report 23 Oct 2009 13:39

Freewheel, thanks for the info on the Cameron's, didn't realise there were so many. I notice jane's middle name is McL, should i assume this ia an abbreviation of something else?
I also noticed that some of the childrens middle names begin with B or Y, I know David's middle name is Blair (mother's maiden name) & her mother was Young. Would this be a possibility?

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 23 Oct 2009 13:41

1901 - still unmarried

Name: David B Cameron
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Isabella
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/1
Registration district: Bridgeton
Civil parish: Glasgow Bridgeton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 42 Scott St
Occupation: Locksmith
ED: 26
Household schedule number: 91
Line: 17
Roll: CSSCT1901_264
Household Members: Name Age
William Cameron 48
Isabella Cameron 49
David B Cameron 25
Jane Mc L C Cameron 22
Janet Y Cameron 20
Mary B Cameron 18
John Cameron 16
William Cameron 14
Helen S Cameron 11
Malcolm Cameron 8

Martyn

Martyn Report 23 Oct 2009 13:46

Freewheel
I think the first one is my Elizabeth Algie, as her father was James Algie & mother was Elizabeth Morris. The name Colquhoun doesen't seem to fit my tree

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Oct 2009 13:53

Martyn

Using the information that Freewheel has given you from the census, it should be pretty easy to identify these siblings from their middle names on Scotlandspeople. If you buy some credits 30 for £6 - 1 credit to view search result and 5 to view certificate, you will be able to get all their births.

If you do a search for Cameron births between 1874 and 1895 (just in case there was a couple more) and select Glasgow then Bridgeton you should get most over no more than 2 pages. That will use 2 credits leaving you 28 which will let you view 5 certificates - pretty good value I would say. You will then have their full names and exact dates of birth.


EDIT

If David's mother's maiden surname was Young then the chances are that Janet is named for her so she was probably Janet Young. Likewise is could be that The child with the initials McI is named for David's father's mother and the McI is her maiden surname. This was a fairly common Scottish naming pattern.

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 23 Oct 2009 13:59

I get really worried when people say they 'think' info found is the person they want -

And it looks to me that the two censuses refer to the same Elizabeth (Algie).

Where did you get her details?

And can you please do as I asked earlier, and check your date info...............specifically with regard to Georgina's parents.......

Martyn

Martyn Report 23 Oct 2009 14:23

Freewheel, point taken about the age, I think George was born c1856 & Elizabeth Algie was born 1852. I know he married Elizabeth Algie 22/04/1881. Is it likely she remarried a Colqhoun by 1891?.
I got her information from Scotland's People

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Oct 2009 14:36

Martyn

You are making it very difficult to help you.

You said
"Georgina's parents were George b 1866 Glasgow & died 22/04/1881, his wife was Elizabeth Algie born 1852 & died 22/04/1881 glasgow"

So did they both died on 22/04/1881 or is that they date that they married?

Also in your first post you said that Georgina was born in 1876 - so was she born before her parents married? What were the details from her birth certificate please? Including the address where she was born.


Freewheel

Freewheel Report 23 Oct 2009 14:42

If, as I suspect, you have given the wrong year (10 years out) for Georgina's birth - this is the only one in 1901 born in Bridgeton

Name: Georgina McMillan
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Bridgeton
Registration Number: 644/1
Registration district: Bridgeton
Civil parish: Glasgow Bridgeton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 108 Reid St
Occupation: Muslin Weaver
ED: 29
Household schedule number: 89
Line: 19
Roll: CSSCT1901_264
Household Members: Name Age
Mary McMillan 58 b. Bridgeton
Georgina McMillan 14
Margaret Robertson 64

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 23 Oct 2009 14:43

Same girl in 1891

Name: Georgina McMillan
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow
Registration Number: 644/2
Registration district: Camlachie
Civil parish: Glasgow Chalmers
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 71 Waterloo St
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 66
Line: 25
Roll: CSSCT1891_243
Household Members: Name Age
George McMillan 65 Occupation: Carpet Weaver
Mary McMillan 45
Georgina McMillan 4