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Martyn
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23 Oct 2009 12:53 |
Hi I'm trying to find the siblings of Georgina McMillan b 31/12/1876 Bridgeton Glasgow & her husband David Cameron b 07/08/1886 Bridgeton Glasgow. Any help would be appreicated
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rootgatherer
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23 Oct 2009 13:08 |
As you have their exact dates of births, do you have their parents' names from the birth certificates please?
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Rallyreg
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23 Oct 2009 13:17 |
Could this be them, as it's the only Georgina & David that I could find:
Name: David Cameron Age: 22 (abt 1879) Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Georgina Gender: Male Where born: Forres, Elginshire Registration Number: 136 Registration district: New Spynie Civil parish: New Spynie County: Moray Address: Rosebrae Leigate Occupation: Farm Servant Ploughlman ED: 1 Household schedule number: 28 Line: 7 Roll: CSSCT1901_41 Household Members: Name Age Georgina Cameron 23 (abt 1878) Duffus, Elginshire Mary Nisbet Cameron 2 (abt 1899) Birnie, Elginshire Jessie Cameron 10 mo (abt 1900) Birnie, Elginshire
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Freewheel
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23 Oct 2009 13:19 |
Do you actually mean 'siblings' (brothers and sisters)? Or are you looking for their offspring?
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rootgatherer
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23 Oct 2009 13:23 |
Rallyreg
Elgin is pretty far away from Bridgeton, Glasgow.
I don't see a Suitable Georgina either! I have even looked for an Ina as this is most likely what she would have been known as.
There are not that many McMillan families in Bridgeton - a few more MacMillan's and lots more of each in the neighbouring district of the Calton.
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Martyn
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23 Oct 2009 13:23 |
Hi David's parents were William Cameron b1853 St Cuthberts Edinburgh d20/03/1931 Glasgow he married Isabella Blair on 13/04/1874 & she was born c1852 in Perthshire & died 05/03/1930. Georgina's parents were George b 1866 Glasgow & died 22/04/1881, his wife was Elizabeth Algie born 1852 & died 22/04/1881 glasgow. hope this helps
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Freewheel
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23 Oct 2009 13:25 |
I think you need to do some checking on the date info your are posting - the dates just do not tally!
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Freewheel
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23 Oct 2009 13:27 |
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Name: David B Cameron Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relationship: Son Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Isabella Gender: Male Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 644/1 Registration district: Bridgeton Civil parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 47 Reid St Occupation: Wood Turner ED: 11 Household schedule number: 37 Line: 12 Roll: CSSCT1891_238 Household Members: Name Age William Cameron 38 Isabella Cameron 39 Rachel Cameron 16 David B Cameron 15 Jane Mcl Cameron 12 Janet Y Cameron 10 Mary B Cameron 8 John Cameron 6 William Cameron 4 Helen B Cameron 1 William Cameron 19
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Martyn
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23 Oct 2009 13:28 |
Freewheel, sorry I meant brother & sisters Rallyreg, I don't think it is them
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Freewheel
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23 Oct 2009 13:31 |
That's OK - just making sure - many people think siblings are a person's children!
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Freewheel
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23 Oct 2009 13:35 |
is this Georgina's mother in 1871? Just to get a 'handle' on these people
Name: Elizabeth Algie Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relationship: Daughter Parent's Name: James Gender: Female Where born: Neilston, Renfrewshire Registration Number: 572/1 Registration district: Neilston Civil parish: Neilston County: Renfrewshire Address: Wesharts Land Occupation: Mill Worker ED: 7 Household schedule number: 15 Line: 18 Roll: CSSCT1871_101 Household Members: Name Age Mrs. James Algie 36 Elizabeth Algie 18 William Algie 15 Janet Shaw 22 EDIT:
Probably not - this looks like her in 1881
Name: Elizabeth Colquhoun [Elizabeth Algie] Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : James Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: Neilston, Renfrew Registration Number: 572/1 Registration district: Neilston Civil parish: Neilston County: Renfrewshire Address: Waterside Workers House Occupation: Laundress ED: 5 Household schedule number: 48 Line: 10 Roll: cssct1881_171 Household Members: Name Age James Colquhoun 28 Elizabeth Colquhoun 27 Mary Colquhoun 4 Mary Algie 57 John Algie 33 Mary Algie 32 James Algie 9 Mary Algie 1
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Martyn
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23 Oct 2009 13:39 |
Freewheel, thanks for the info on the Cameron's, didn't realise there were so many. I notice jane's middle name is McL, should i assume this ia an abbreviation of something else? I also noticed that some of the childrens middle names begin with B or Y, I know David's middle name is Blair (mother's maiden name) & her mother was Young. Would this be a possibility?
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Freewheel
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23 Oct 2009 13:41 |
1901 - still unmarried
Name: David B Cameron Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relationship: Son Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Isabella Gender: Male Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 644/1 Registration district: Bridgeton Civil parish: Glasgow Bridgeton County: Lanarkshire Address: 42 Scott St Occupation: Locksmith ED: 26 Household schedule number: 91 Line: 17 Roll: CSSCT1901_264 Household Members: Name Age William Cameron 48 Isabella Cameron 49 David B Cameron 25 Jane Mc L C Cameron 22 Janet Y Cameron 20 Mary B Cameron 18 John Cameron 16 William Cameron 14 Helen S Cameron 11 Malcolm Cameron 8
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Martyn
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23 Oct 2009 13:46 |
Freewheel I think the first one is my Elizabeth Algie, as her father was James Algie & mother was Elizabeth Morris. The name Colquhoun doesen't seem to fit my tree
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rootgatherer
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23 Oct 2009 13:53 |
Martyn
Using the information that Freewheel has given you from the census, it should be pretty easy to identify these siblings from their middle names on Scotlandspeople. If you buy some credits 30 for £6 - 1 credit to view search result and 5 to view certificate, you will be able to get all their births.
If you do a search for Cameron births between 1874 and 1895 (just in case there was a couple more) and select Glasgow then Bridgeton you should get most over no more than 2 pages. That will use 2 credits leaving you 28 which will let you view 5 certificates - pretty good value I would say. You will then have their full names and exact dates of birth.
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If David's mother's maiden surname was Young then the chances are that Janet is named for her so she was probably Janet Young. Likewise is could be that The child with the initials McI is named for David's father's mother and the McI is her maiden surname. This was a fairly common Scottish naming pattern.
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Freewheel
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23 Oct 2009 13:59 |
I get really worried when people say they 'think' info found is the person they want -
And it looks to me that the two censuses refer to the same Elizabeth (Algie).
Where did you get her details?
And can you please do as I asked earlier, and check your date info...............specifically with regard to Georgina's parents.......
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Martyn
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23 Oct 2009 14:23 |
Freewheel, point taken about the age, I think George was born c1856 & Elizabeth Algie was born 1852. I know he married Elizabeth Algie 22/04/1881. Is it likely she remarried a Colqhoun by 1891?. I got her information from Scotland's People
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rootgatherer
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23 Oct 2009 14:36 |
Martyn
You are making it very difficult to help you.
You said "Georgina's parents were George b 1866 Glasgow & died 22/04/1881, his wife was Elizabeth Algie born 1852 & died 22/04/1881 glasgow"
So did they both died on 22/04/1881 or is that they date that they married?
Also in your first post you said that Georgina was born in 1876 - so was she born before her parents married? What were the details from her birth certificate please? Including the address where she was born.
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Freewheel
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23 Oct 2009 14:42 |
If, as I suspect, you have given the wrong year (10 years out) for Georgina's birth - this is the only one in 1901 born in Bridgeton
Name: Georgina McMillan Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 Relationship: Daur (Daughter) Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow, Bridgeton Registration Number: 644/1 Registration district: Bridgeton Civil parish: Glasgow Bridgeton County: Lanarkshire Address: 108 Reid St Occupation: Muslin Weaver ED: 29 Household schedule number: 89 Line: 19 Roll: CSSCT1901_264 Household Members: Name Age Mary McMillan 58 b. Bridgeton Georgina McMillan 14 Margaret Robertson 64
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Freewheel
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23 Oct 2009 14:43 |
Same girl in 1891
Name: Georgina McMillan Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 Relationship: Daughter Father's Name: George Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: Glasgow Registration Number: 644/2 Registration district: Camlachie Civil parish: Glasgow Chalmers County: Lanarkshire Address: 71 Waterloo St ED: 5 Household schedule number: 66 Line: 25 Roll: CSSCT1891_243 Household Members: Name Age George McMillan 65 Occupation: Carpet Weaver Mary McMillan 45 Georgina McMillan 4
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