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Pilot captain

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Kevin

Kevin Report 12 Nov 2007 19:16

Trying to find 'Pilot Captain' Mountain of Boston Lincolnshire. His Granddaughter was Dinah Ann Chilvers, who married Elijah Smith in Boston.

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 12 Nov 2007 19:28

What sort of period are we talking about?

Kevin

Kevin Report 13 Nov 2007 22:57

We are talking of around 1790 to 1820ish

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 14 Nov 2007 02:07

Have you checked out the lists in the IGI?

Batch numbers:

C011334
C011333
M011331
M011332

cover the period. I'm not sure whether 1790 to 1820ish is the period when your Mountain was born. And his surname was Mountain, but his daughter's was Chilvers?

Her birth:

Name: Dinah Ann Chilvers
Year of Registration: 1852
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Boston
County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 561

Her marriage:

Name: Dinah Ann Chilvers
Year of Registration: 1868
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Boston
County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 789

Is that where the 'Pilot Captain' Mountain comes from? I'm just not too sure what it means!

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 14 Nov 2007 02:25

Hmm -- is this Dinah in 1861?


Name: Dinah Mountain
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Dinah
Gender: Female
Where born: Fishtoft, Lincolnshire, England
(It says "ditto" to sister Hannah's birth place -- Boston)

Civil Parish: Boston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Botolph
Town: Boston
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Registration district: Boston
Sub-registration district: Boston
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 198

Household Members:
Name Age
Dinah Mountain 39
Dinah Mountain 10
Hannah Mountain 13
Henry Mountain 11
Joseph Mountain 14
Martha Mountain 4
Mary A Mountain 8
Robert Mountain 59
Susanna Mountain 9

Robert was born in Fishtoft, and his occupation is "Pilot Boston".

It looks like maybe Dinah Ann was the daughter of Dinah, and the other children were the children of Robert.


So now we have in the IGI:


ROBERT MOUNTAIN
Christening: 28 AUG 1801 Boston, Lincoln, England
Father: JOHN MOUNTAIN
Mother: ANN NEWBELL
Batch No.: C011333

and, undocumented:

Robert MOUNTAIN
Christening: 28 AUG 1801 Boston, Lincoln, England
Spouse: Dinah CARR Family
Marriage: 06 FEB 1844 Boston, , Yorkshire, England

but that brings us to:

Name: Dinah Carr
Year of Registration: 1844
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Boston
County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 14
Page: 291

-- groom on page Robert Mountain.

... which leaves us with no clue as to why the Dinah in their 1861 household would have been born Dinah Chilvers.


Here is the household in 1851:

Name: Dinah Mountain
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert
Gender: Female
Where born: Boston, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: Boston
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Registration district: Boston
Sub-registration district: Boston
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Household schedule number: 166

Household Members:
Name Age
Dinah Mountain 29
Elizabeth Mountain 7
Harriet Mountain 3
Henry Mountain 1
Joseph Mountain 4
Margaret Mountain 19
Robert Mountain 49
Thoma S Mountain 22


Is Dinah Chilvers an adopted child?

Edit -- I'm a moron. You said his *granddaughter* was Dinah Chilvers. I haven't figured out her parents, but I'm sure you know!

Surely Dinah Carr was a second wife then; she couldn't have been a grandmother in 1852. ;)

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 14 Nov 2007 03:49

Yup -- there was a first wife. Here's the household in 1841:


Name: Robert Mauntane (I would read it as Mountain)
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: Boston
Hundred: Boston
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Registration district: Boston
Sub-registration district: Boston

Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Mauntane 35
John Mauntane 15
Margaret Mauntane 8
Robert Mauntane 40 - Mariner
Robert Mauntane 15
Sarah Mauntane 11
Wm Selsey 50

That last person is actually female, "Nurse", and I think I would read it as Mrs. Sibsey. I was initially looking to see whether s/he was a parent-in-law.


Name: Sarah Ann Mountain
Year of Registration: 1851
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Boston
County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 14
Page: 330

-- groom on page: Robert Chilvers. Parents of Dinah Ann Chilvers.


I'm sure you knew all this, but it was making me crazy!


This could be Robert's first marriage:

ROBERT MOUNTAIN
Spouse: ANNE EPTON
Marriage: 31 DEC 1822 Boston, Lincoln, England
Batch No.: M011331


And those names match up with the parents of children John, Robert and Margaret in IGI batch C011334.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 15 Nov 2007 02:35

So Kevin -- was any of that of any use?

Kevin

Kevin Report 19 Nov 2007 22:26

Complicated isn't it. Thanks for your help. I have discovered that. Robert Chilvers was born in Ipswich and was a wheelwright who was lodging in Boston. He married Sarah Anne Mountain in 1850. Her afther was Robert Mountain who was a pilot (on the tug boats that guided ships into Boston Docks), as was his father before him. It appears that he remarried and Dinah Anne could be his second wife. The marriage was witnessed by her father and Margaret Mountain, who may have been her sister from Robert's first marriage. i will definitely investigate the Anne Epton marriage to see if this will shed any more light on the subject. Once again many thanks for the time and effort you have taken in helping me in this search.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 19 Nov 2007 23:03

You're welcome, and sorry about getting myself so confused in the middle there. All came out right in the end, though!

Now you just have to sort out which of Robert's kids belong to which wife ... that 1841 household should help.