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Susan
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14 Jul 2009 09:29 |
I am interested to find any of the Nodes family. I have William Hawes Nodes 1842 marrying my gr.gr. aunt Catherine Schrier. Any help much appreciated.
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14 Jul 2009 09:50 |
hi is ths the family you are after 1851 census Name William Nodes Age 37 Estimated Year of Birth 1814 Relationship to Head of Household HEAD OF FAMILY Occupation UNDERTAKER Address 1 Manchester Buildings District Islington, Islington Parish Administrative County London Birth Place St Pancras Birth County MIDDLESEX in house william head 37 harriet wife 30 oliver 14 sarah 10 william 9 charlotte niece 20 cant make out surname Ho 107 / 1500
1861 census Name William Nodes Age 47 Estimated Year of Birth 1814 Relationship to Head of Household HEAD Occupation FURNISHING ?TAKER Address 1 MANCHESTER BUILDINGS District Islington, Islington West Parish Administrative County London Birth Place St Pancras Birth County MIDDLESEX in house william head 47 harriet wife 45 oliver 24 sarah 20 william 19
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brummiejan
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14 Jul 2009 09:55 |
This is definitely them - William's occupation is undertaker. Address is 201 St james Rd
1891 England Census about William Nodes Name: William Nodes Age: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Catherine Gender: Male Where born: Islington, London, England Civil parish: Islington Ecclesiastical parish: St James Town: London City County/Island: London Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Islington South West ED, institution, or vessel: 63 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Nodes 49 Catherine Nodes 47 Ednard Nodes 20 Bertie Nodes 18 Margaret Nodes 17 Cecillia Nodes 16 Charlotte Harding 24 Catherine Nodes 4 Isabella Robertson 26 William Elie Mitchelson Wheele 40
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14 Jul 2009 09:57 |
1871 Name: William Nodes Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Catherine M A Gender: Male Where born: Holloway, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Mile End Old Town Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity Town: Mile End Old Town County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Railway Clerk
Registration district: Mile End Old Town Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town, Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 119 Household Members: Name Age William Nodes 29 Catherine M A Nodes 27 William R T Nodes 5 Edward C Nodes 3 months Caroline Harvey 16 James Endicott 23
but he's a Railway Clerk?
same one in 1881 Name: William Nodes Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Catherine Gender: Male Where born: Holloway, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Hornsey County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: 97 Woodstock Rd Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Railway Clerk Registration district: Edmonton Sub-registration district: Hornsey ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Nodes 39 Catherine Nodes 37 William Nodes 15 Edward Nodes 10 Henrietta Nodes 7 Margaret Nodes 3 Mary Nodes 2 Julia Willingan 22
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PollyPoppet
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14 Jul 2009 10:00 |
1871 census Name William Nodes Age 55 Estimated Year of Birth 1816 Relationship to Head of Household HEAD Occupation ? Address 201 HOLLOWAY ROAD District Islington, Islington West Parish Administrative County London Birth Place St Pancras Birth County MIDDLESEX in house william head 55 furnishing / undertaker harriet wife 53 sarah 30 eliza baker servant 39 RG 10 / 273
1841 census Name William Nodes Age 25 Estimated Year of Birth 1816 Relationship to Head of Household ? Occupation UNDERTAKER Address Manchester Building District Islington Parish Administrative County London Birth Place Unknown Birth County YES in house william head 25 harriet 20 oliver 4 sarah 10 months HO 107 / 665 / 33
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brummiejan
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14 Jul 2009 10:03 |
I wonder if this is just a co-incidence? This William is not an undertaker, but can't find any others Williams married to a Catherine, and in fact on freebmd there is only 1 obvious marriage, which is yours:
1881 England Census about William Nodes Name: William Nodes Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Catherine Gender: Male Where born: Holloway, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Hornsey County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: 97 Woodstock Rd
Occupation: Railway Clerk Registration district: Edmonton Sub-registration district: Hornsey ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Nodes 39 Catherine Nodes 37 William Nodes 15 Edward Nodes 10 Henrietta Nodes 7 Margaret Nodes 3 Mary Nodes 2 Julia Willingan 22
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AnnCardiff
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14 Jul 2009 10:04 |
Catherine Mary Ann Schrier Pedigree Female
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: FEB 1844 Stepney, London, England Christening: Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: Jonathan SCHRIER Family
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AnnCardiff
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14 Jul 2009 10:06 |
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William NODES Head M Male 39 Holloway, Middlesex, England Railway Clerk Catherine NODES Wife M Female 37 Mile End, Middlesex, England William NODES Son Male 15 Mile End, Middlesex, England Edward NODES Son Male 10 Mile End, Middlesex, England Henrietta NODES Daur Female 7 Mile End, Middlesex, England Margaret NODES Daur Female 3 Bow, Middlesex, England Mary NODES Daur Female 2 Bow, Middlesex, England Julia WILLINGAN Servant U Female 22 Stepney, Middlesex, England Domestic Servant
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 97 Woodstock Rd Census Place Hornsey, Middlesex, England Family History Library Film 1341335 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1376 / 35 Page Number 63
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AnnCardiff
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14 Jul 2009 10:07 |
1881
Catherine E. NODES Head U Female 65 London, Middlesex, England No Profession James S. NODES Nephew U Male 10 London, Middlesex, England Scholar Gertrude E. WEBBE Visitor U Female 19 London, Middlesex, England No Profession George MONK Serv M Male 36 Mitcham, Surrey, England Gardener Dom Serv Elizabeth CROSS Serv U Female 46 Upton Chatvey, Buckingham, England Cook Dom Serv Mary A. WOODGER Serv U Female 34 Ripley, Surrey, England Housemaid Dom Serv
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Gatton Rd Census Place Reigate Foreign, Surrey, England Family History Library Film 1341188 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 0797 / 79 Page Number 24
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AnnCardiff
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14 Jul 2009 10:07 |
CATHARINE ELIZABETH NODES Pedigree Female
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 26 FEB 1816 Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: WILLIAM NODES Family Mother: CATHERINE ELIZABETH
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Susan
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18 Jul 2009 09:31 |
Thanks everyone for helping me with the Nodes family. It has filled in some of the gaps. However, it has also posed a query. Ann of Green Gables says that Catherine Mary Ann Schrier was the daughter of Jonathan Schrier, and it was she who married William Nodes born c1842. I have Catherine as the daughter of Samuel Schrier c1810-1849 and Mary Ann Powell Robinson. She was the sister of my gr.grandmother, Henrietta Elizabeth Schrier, and appears on the 1851 and 1861 census. The IGI does show a Catherine Mary Ann Schrier born 1844 as the daughter of Jonathan Schrier, but there only seems to be one Catherine born 1st quarter of 1844. I think that maybe she has been wrongly given the father's name as Jonathan. The only way I could find out is if I got the marriage certificate for Catherine and find out who her father is.
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brummiejan
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18 Jul 2009 09:48 |
Susan, if you think Catherine may have been mistaken with her father's name, I would be inclined to get her birth cert. I have included another vaguely interesting birth, maybe a relation? That name was bound to cause trouble! The problem is you need to contact gro first to get them to check the transcription, though it looks unreadable to me. This is a free service. will try to remember where to ask.
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Births Mar 1844 (>99%) SCHRER Catherine Mary Ann Stepney 2 _31 Births Sep 1846 (>99%) Shwerer Catherine Jessey Bermondsey 4 27
EDIT Here is the email address for checking unclear entries: [email protected] Just give all the info as above
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Susan
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20 Mar 2010 12:32 |
Janet, sometime ago you helped me with my Nodes family search. I have now found the marriage registration on the parish records for William Nodes and Catherine Mary Ann Schrier. They got married 30.12.1864 at the Parish Church of South Hackney. It shows the father of Catherine as Samuel Schrier, a rope manufacturer, and as he had been deceased in 1849, Catherine's brother Thomas Robinson Schrier was shown as a witness. So I am 100% certain that this Catherine who married William Nodes was the daughter of Samuel and not Jonathan. Susan
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Catherine
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20 Mar 2010 14:44 |
This looks to be your family in 1851:-
Name: Kat Mary Ann Schrier Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1844 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Mary Ann Powell Gender: Female Where born: M E O Town, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Mile End Old Town Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: Registration district: Stepney Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town Lower ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 32 Household Members: Name Age Mary Ann Powell Schrier 48 born: Ratcliffe, Middlesex (Cocoa Matting and Twine Manufacturer) Thomas Robinn Schrier 17 born: St Pauls Shadwell, Middlesex William Davis Schrier 14 born: M E O Town, Middlesex Robert Sam Schrier 10 born: M E O Town, Middlesex Kat Mary Ann Schrier 7 Henrietta Elizh Schrier 5 born: M E O Town, Middlesex Sarah Bird 19 - Servant
Possible death for mother:- Deaths Dec 1851 (>99%) Schrier Mary Ann Whitechapel 2 459
The district Whitechapel spans the boundaries of the counties of London and Middlesex Reg. district for :- Mile End New Town
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Catherine
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20 Mar 2010 14:49 |
WILLIAM DAVID SCHRIER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 21 AUG 1836 Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England Father: SAMUEL SCHRIER Mother: MARY ANN
HENRIETTA ELIZABETH SCHRIER - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 24 DEC 1845 Christening: 20 MAR 1861 Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England Father: SAMUEL SCHRIER Mother: MARY ANN POWELL
only these two are showing on IGI
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Catherine
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20 Mar 2010 14:52 |
1841 Name: Samuel Schrier Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1811 Gender: Male Where born: Middlesex, England Civil parish: Stepney Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Rope Maker
Registration district: Stepney Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town Lower Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Samuel Schrier 30 Maryann Schrier 30 Thomas Schrier 7 William Schrier 5 Robert Schrier 3 Mo Caroline Hunt 16
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Catherine
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20 Mar 2010 15:23 |
Couldn't find a marriage on IGI but did find these on ancestry:-
Banns:- on the 5th, 12th and 19th May
Name: Samuel Schrier Spouse Name: Mary Ann Powell Robinson Record Type: Banns Event Date: 19 May 1833 Parish: St John at Hackney County: Middlesex Borough: Hackney
Marriage:- Name: Samuel Schrier (Bachelor) Spouse Name: Mary Ann Powell Robinson (Spinster) Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 30 Jun 1833 Parish: St John at Hackney County: Middlesex Borough: Hackney
were married in this church by Banns In the presence of :- Jonathan Schrier and (looks like) Mr Jackson
This one was on the same page, but I think you have this already, but never mind here it is again:- Name: Catherine Mary Ann Schrier Age: Minor Spouse Name: William Nodes (Mercantile Clerk) Spouse Age: Full Age Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 3 Dec 1864 Parish: St John of Jerusalem County: Middlesex Borough: Hackney Father Name: Samuel Schrier (Rope Manufacturer) Spouse Father Name: William Howes Nodes (Furnishing Undertaker) In the presence of;- Thomas Robinson Schrier William Hawes Nodes M A Schrier
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Catherine
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20 Mar 2010 15:35 |
MARY ANN POWELL ROBINSON - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 06 MAY 1804 Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England Age at: 1yr. Father: WILLM. ROBINSON Mother: ELIZTH.
other christenings, St. Dunstan with same parents so possible siblings:- ELIZA ROBINSON - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 06 MAY 1804 Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England
WILLM. GEORGE ROBINSON - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 15 MAR 1807 Gender: Male Christening: 12 APR 1807 Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England
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Catherine
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20 Mar 2010 15:50 |
For the Nodes family:-
Name: William Hawes Nodes (Bachelor) Spouse Name: Harriet Richardson (Spinster) Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 23 May 1836 Parish: St Pancras Parish Church County: Middlesex Borough: Camden
In the presence of H. Brittain and Grace (looks like) Richardson)
On IGI, only one child showing for this couple:-
OLIVER NODES - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 05 MAR 1837 Gender: Male Christening: 19 NOV 1837 Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England Father: WILLIAM NODES Mother: HARRIET
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Catherine
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20 Mar 2010 16:08 |
Name: William Hawes Nodes Record Type: Baptism Date: 7 Sep 1814 Father's Name: Oliver Nodes Mother's Name: Elizabeth Nodes Parish: St Giles in the Fields, St Giles High Street, Holborn Borough: Camden County: Middlesex
Profession: Undertaker Chapel Street, Tottenham Court Road, St. Pancras
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about William Hawes Nodes Name: William Hawes Nodes Estimated birth year: abt 1814 Year of Registration: 1877 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 63 District: Islington County: Greater London, London, Middlesex Volume: 1b Page: 206
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