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Hi all ive been searching now for days trying to find the parents of Robert Hope married to Louisa Hope.In the 1901 census it shows them with their ten children,but when I go backwards to 1891,and so on, even on family search for 1881,I can not find them,I can not find a marriage either.it shows Robert born Bristol,and Louisa born Wanstead Essex,is there any Hope atall,thanks Terry

1901 for reference

1901 England Census
about Robert Hope
Name: Robert Hope
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Louisa
Gender: Male
Where born: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Willesden
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hendon
Sub-registration district: Willesden
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 199
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Hope 46
Louisa Hope 44
Albert Hope 22
Mary Hope 21
Beatrice Hope 19
Fanny Hope 19
Leonard Hope 14
Rody Hope 13
Walter Hope 9
Job Hope 6
Jennie Hope 5
Maud Hope 2

I can't even find Robert's birth. This is the nearest

Births Jun 1860
HOPE Robert Hargett Clifton 6a 97

Hi Selena,I know its a real puzzle ive found other roberts but the dates are really far out,im still hoping someone comes up with the goods,thank you anyway Terry

I can only guess that they must have changed their surname! Do you know anything else about the family, deaths marriages etc,

Hi Selena no ive got nothing else only the info I have given you its now doing my brain in

found this dont know if its your family

1891

Name: Robert Pikey
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Louisa
Gender: Male
Where born: Bristol

Civil parish: Hendon
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Childs Hill
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Hendon
Sub-registration district: Hendon
ED, institution, or vessel: 6b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Pikey 35
Louisa Pikey 33 Epping; Forest, Essex
Albert Pikey 16 Childs Hill, Middlesex
Luiderville Pikey 14
Brilluess Pikey 12
Ranny Pikey 8 fanny on image
Molly Pikey 4
Leonard Pikey 9/12

all children born Childs Hill, Middlesex


will check some more

it says on census these are gypsys in van


June x

Marriage perhaps??

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1877 (>99%)
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BOURNE Mary Ann Edmonton 3a 216
Denny Henry Edmonton 3a 216
>>>>>HORE Robert Edmonton 3a 216
Kidd Eliza Edmonton 3a 216
>>>>>>Kidd Louisa Edmonton 3a 216


Andy

Hi June I can see where your going with this,but it seem strange about the birth areas,and someone said that they may have changed their surname,they were from a gypsy background,but not all the name are there and they are different,the plot thickins,thanks

Andy I dont think so but thanks anyway

Well Done June!

there is a story in the family that we were decendants of gypsy rose lee,real name Alice coe,now im getting excited

Certainly looks like them June.
Well done.

Other children could have been anywhere that night and if they were gypsys was the census taker having a laugh calling them Pikey?

June the champers are chilling

What name?

around here in Lancashire they call gypsys Pikies lol

sorry Terry

June x

They do here in Wales too June.
viv

June ive just looked at the 1891 census I can not find them there

they are on ancestry


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1050; Folio 75; Page 29; GSU roll: 6096160


June x

oh I have not got ancestry only gold on GR