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On 1911 and 1901 censuses Emma Oddy (b Pudsey 1858) is married to George Taylor, and Beatrice Oddy (b Apr-Jun 1889) is shown as his stepdaughter. From this I assume that Beatrice is Emma's illegitimate daughter.

I have Emma Oddy with her parents on the 1861, 1871 and 1881 censuses ... but on 1891 can find neither Emma nor Beatrice.

Can anyone with fresh eyes find them or alternatively suggest where they might have been hiding? I am loth to spend any money on certificates as this is a bit of a distant relative, but hate leaving mysteries unsolved!!

Beatrice born Bradford?

Births Jun 1889
Oddy Beatrice Bradford, Y. 9b 21


Tracey x

Yes that's Beatrice. They state on on census returns that her place of birth is Dudley Hill (part of Bradford).

I'm struggling to find a marriage for an Emma Oddy & George Taylor.

Do you have the marriage details?


Tracey x

EDIT::

Ahhhh,

This your Emma?

Marriages Dec 1900 (>99%)
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Barraclough Willie Bradford, Y. 9b 218
>>Carter Emma Bradford,Y. 9b 218
Hunt Martha Walton Bradford, Y. 9b 218
>>Taylor George William Bradford, Y. 9b 218

Sooooo, she'd be Emma Carter on the 1891 i'm guessing?


T x

No - the only way I discovered where Emma had gone was that George Taylor was the witness to Emma's illiterate mother's cross in the signature space on the 1911 census return. I then searched George to find out who he was and discovered he was married to Emma. Or at least he SAYS he is!! He states their length of marriage as 11 full years, making a probable date of 1899 or 1900.

Errrr

The 1911 census clearly states No of children born alive NONE??

Are you sure Beatrice is hers?


Tracey x

They both appear at the same address in Bradford, sorry, I don't a subscription to look at the record but if you go onto findmypast.co.uk you should find them. Use advanced search, Emma is down as born 1958 and Beatrice 1890.
Sorry, should have said, on the 1891 census.
Julie

1891 RG number: RG12 Piece: 3612 Folio: 25 Page: 44
Address: 77, Rooks Lane, Tong County: Yorkshire (West Riding)

OATES, Edward Head Married M 55 1836 General Broker Tong Yorkshire
OATES, Martha A Wife Married F 46 1845 Bradford Yorkshire
ODDY, Emma Boarder Single F 33 1858 Stuff Weaver Pudsey Yorkshire
ODDY, Beatrice Boarder Single F 1 1890 Tong Yorkshire

T x

Tracey - that is 0 children to CURRENT marriage.

Julie - are they Carter or Oddy? Is it just because I use Ancestry not GR?!!

1881

Seth ODDY Head M Male 43 Pudsey, York, England Butcher
Francis ODDY Wife M Female 42 Pudsey, York, England
Emma ODDY Daur U Female 24 Pudsey, York, England Worsted Weaver
Mary ODDY Daur U Female 19 Bramley, York, England Worsted Weaver
Alice A. ODDY Daur Female 17 Bramley, York, England Worsted Mender
Esther ODDY Daur Female 15 Bramley, York, England Worsted Mender
Herbert ODDY Son Male 10 Pudsey, York, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling 4 Battye St
Census Place Bradford, York, England
Family History Library Film 1342062
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4443 / 126
Page Number 19

Thank you all. Think I need to seriously reconsider my Ancestry membership as it STILL isn't coming up with a match. Will use the reference provided instead!!

Chris xx

For ref ....1901 census

Name: Beatrice Oddy
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relation: Stepdaughter
Mother's Name: Emma
Gender: Female
Where born: Bradford, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Bradford
Ecclesiastical parish: Laister Dyke St Mary
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Bradford East
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
George W Taylor 43
Emma Taylor 44
Beatrice Oddy 11

True

I'll plug my brain in, in a minute...

It's the roast dinner i'm blaming!

T x

Ive just had a look on Ancestry and I cant find them on 91 census no matter what combination I enter

I wonder if the transcription was missed for this one?

Ginny
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Tracey - you're not the only one - I have used your reference for where Emma and Beatrice appear, and I have also tried searching the Oates family, but STILL nothing is coming up on Ancestry. It only shows 26 pages of District 12 ... am I going mad or do I need to demand a refund on my membership??

Ginny!! Thank you for reassuring me that I am NOT completely mad!!

Chris xx

No youre not mad hun!

I searched through the district after nothing came up with the ref and got..bog all!

I think they've missed it off all together, it might be worth sending them an email with the copy that Tracey found on FMP

Ginny
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Ok hold your hats i'm going in...

T x

EDIT: Nope def not there....

T x

Flo

Tracey found the census data on Find My Past....who HAVE transcribed the info unlike Ancestry!!

Numpty's

x

To be honest just recently i've taken to using FMP for census searching, it's cleaner and faster.....

T xx