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Hi I am currently trying to trace back my Nans ancestors. My Nans name was Joan Pennifold before marrying my Grandad James Southon. Joan passed away in November 2007 and has a sisiter called Eleanor. This is all the information i have from this side of my family and i am very keen to learn more. If you can help please contact me.

Thanks

Kerry Southon

Please give us some approximate dates of when and where these people were born...

Sam x

Hi Sam
The best i can find out is that my Nan Joan Pennifold was born roughly in 1927 (dont quote me). and she married my grandad James Southon (born in 1929) in Brighton in December 1948.


Joan had a sister called Eleanor and possibly a brother called John but i am unsure of their dob.

Thanks

Kerry

Joan F Pennifold mothers maiden name Packhan in Brighton vol 2b page 329, 3rd qtr 1928.
Marriage
Joan F Pennifold married James W Southon in Brigthton vol 5h page 235, 4th qtr 1948.

Thanks so much Dorsetbaby.

Can you find anything else, details of parents, names,dob etc. Any help is much appreciated.

Thanks

Kerry Southon

Hi Kerry,

The only way to get parents names or the date of birth is to buy the birth certificate. You could look for a marriage between a Pennifold and a Packhan but without buying the certificate you can't be certain you have the right people.

Sam x

Thanks Sam

I'll try to do that. tHX

kERRY

Albert W Pennifold married Ellen F Packham
Sep 1924 in Brighton ref 2b 550
Ken

Possible Births

Births Mar 1902
Pennifold Albert William Brighton 2b 219

Births Mar 1904
PACKHAM Ellen Frances Newhaven 2b 175

Births Mar 1907
Packham Ellen Frances Brighton 2b 173

Ken

By co-incidence in 1901, in Brighton an Albert Pennifold gets married. One of the two ladies is his wife.

Marriages Sep 1901
Pennifold Albert Victor Brighton 2b 455
POTTER William James Brighton 2b 455
Tadd Sarah Alice Brighton 2b 455
WYMARK Annie Brighton 2b 455

Ken

In the 1901 census, Albert is lodging with a Widow, Annie Wymark, (see Marriages above).

Search Results - Sussex 1901 Census Transcript
Printed on Monday, 7 January 2008

Surname Forename Age Relationship Occupation Birth Place Address Folio Reference S&N File Reference
Wymark Annie 32 Head Dress Maker Brighton, Sussex
Pennifold Albert 33 Boarder Gas Meter Inspector Kingston, Surrey
Osborn Winifred 19 Boarder Grocer Book Keeper Hailsham, Sussex

30 Church Street, West Brighton
RG13/0933/~F119 CD4 RG13_933.pdf p.235


This is his birth

Births Mar 1868
Pennifold Albert Victor Kingston 2a 283

Ken

This is Albert in 1871

Search Results - Surrey 1871 Census Transcript
Printed on Monday, 7 January 2008

Surname Forename Age Relationship Occupation Birth Place Address Folio Reference S&N File Reference
Pennifold Frederick 30 Head Domestic Servant Butler Selhurst, Kent
Pennifold Sarah 30 Wife - Tonbridge, Kent
Pennifold Frederick C 6 Son - Tonbridge, Kent
Pennifold Edith M 4 Daughter - Kingston, Surrey
Pennifold Albert 3 Son - Kingston, Surrey
Pennifold William 1 Son - Kingston, Surrey

7 Excelsior Road, Kingston
RG10/0859/F? CD4 RG10_859.pdf p.52

Let me know if you want more.

Ken

Thanks so much ray..if you have any more id be grateful. This is very fascinating...my family will be very pleased. Thx

Kerry

Who is Ray?
Ken

lol im so sorry...ray is my friend who i was on the phone to at the time i was typing....im not blonde but i am dizzy...so sorry

I will look for more on the Pennifold connection, but you will need the marriage cert for Albert & Ellen in 1924 to a) prove the father of Albert William is Albert Victor and b) to identify which Ellen Frances Packham is which.
Ken

Thanks Ken

That would be great. How do i go about getting the marriage certificate.??

Cheers

Kerry

It will cost you £7 in the UK and you need to go to the official web-site for certificates, not others as they are expensive. It will take about 7 working days to come through. Their web-site
is http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
Click on the order online and then you will have to register your address details. Its free to register.

You will need the ref info, this was given to you in the appropriate posts.

Ken

Cheers Ken

Will ave to bring me bank card to work tomorrows/lol

Kerry

Regarding the marriage of Albert Victor to Annie Wymark, (Widow)

Annie Webb married William Henry Wymark in 1892 & William Henry Wymark died in 1899.

Marriages Jun 1892
Webb Annie Brighton 2b 408
Wymark William Henry Brighton 2b 408

Deaths Dec 1899
Wymark William Henry 30 Steyning 2b 221

Ken