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Tina

Tina Report 21 Sep 2007 11:00

My granny was a very cloak and dagger type of lady. Everything was a secret so i guess she had a very dodgy past that she wanted none of us to know about.
Thing is i wanted to know when she was married. My grandfather died before i was born so i cant ask him and her daughter who is alive cant help me as she dont know.
Her name was Doris Sear and my grandfather was william sidney pickett. She was born 28th december 1913 and died july 2002. Her birth place was in edlesborough bedfordshire and her death was in dacorum hemel hempstead.
Im not sure if she married in dacorum but i do know my grandfather was a divorced man.
I know nothing at all about him. Not his date of birth, place of birth or age when he died.

Please help me if you can. Im going around in circles here. Also im very new to this gene finding so please be kind :)

Thanks
Tina



jansmith

jansmith Report 21 Sep 2007 11:39

Do you have year of birth for her daughter as she may have married within 12mths before the birth

Penny

Penny Report 21 Sep 2007 11:57

is this her birth?

Name: Doris Sear
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Seabrook
District: Leighton Buzzard
County: Bedfordshire, Buckinghamshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 616


ou are going to need to find some more names ...otherwise its pure speculations

Marriages Jun 1903
Boarder Mary Lilian Leighton B. 3b 931
Seabrook Ethel Maud Leighton B. 3b 931
Sear Francis Leighton B. 3b 931
Thompson William Charles Leighton B. 3b 931





Marriages Mar 1903 (>99%)
Gray Benjamin Leighton B. 3b 531
Janes Emma Sophia Leighton B. 3b 531
Seabrook Ellen Louisa Leighton B. 3b 531
Sear David Leighton B. 3b 531

Brian

Brian Report 21 Sep 2007 12:08

Found a William Sydney PICKETT born 1903 registered 2nd quarter, Edmonton, Essex/Herts/Midd.

Regards
Brian

Tina

Tina Report 21 Sep 2007 12:13

Im sure that must be my Gran but why do they list her as being registered in the months of Jan-Feb-Mar 1914 when her date of birth is 28th december 1913 as on her death certificate.

Her mother was ellen Louisa Seabrook
Her father was David Sear
Her grandfather was jason Seabrook ( Ellen Louisa's father)
Dont know who Ellen Louisa's mother was as i cant find that out.

Doris Picket and William Pickett had 6 children. Two of them died. One was 4 months old i believe and the other was around 18 months.
The living children were

Catherine, Katherine, Cathelene, Kathelene( Not sure of spelling as this is all a big secret)

Ann Doris Pickett or Anne Doris Pickett

Marlene Barbara 17th August ???

William David Terence Nigel Pickett ( Died 1996) Not known

Richard Sidney Pickett DOB Not Known

Shirley Suzanne Pickett 29th November 1945

Anything else i can add please let me know but im limited on info as gran is now dead and i dont think any of her 12 other brothers and sisters are alive either.

Thank you everyone. You have been great.

Tina

Tina

Tina Report 21 Sep 2007 12:15

Thank you for that Brian. I knew that William Pickett my grandfather didnt come from Hemel hempstead where he married and lived with Gran.

Anyone know his date of death?

Tina

Penny

Penny Report 21 Sep 2007 12:18

her birth will have been registered in the 6 weeks following her birth - you wouldnt dash out and do it 3 days after christmas,reg office probaly shut anyway!- so went in the new year, when the next qtr had started - that is perfectly normal

Tina

Tina Report 21 Sep 2007 12:22

Thank you for that Scarlett Ribbons. I can see your point there. Im adding all of this to my notes. So much to learn. But being new i have a long way to go till im as experienced as you all here.

Tina

Penny

Penny Report 21 Sep 2007 12:24

Thats fine, take you time, go down one line at a time, or you'll get in a pickle.

really you need to send for the marriage cert to confirm her fathers name - i cannot see a Jason Sear in 1901 census anywhre, nor his birth

David, the Francis Sear marriage is the wrong one

Penny

Penny Report 21 Sep 2007 12:28

At the moment, I can see 8 David Sear on 1901 census- all in the Herts /Beds area

David

David Report 21 Sep 2007 12:30

Jason Seabrook is on the 1901 census with daughter Ellen.
In 1891 Jason and wife Mary A (poss nee Simmons) are with daughters Susannah and Ellen.

Penny

Penny Report 21 Sep 2007 12:34

he's there in 1891 too

Name: Jason Seabrook
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Edlesborough, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Eddlesborough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Eddlesborough
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England


Registration district: Leighton Buzzard
Sub-registration district: Edlesborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age

Ellen Seabrook 8
Jason Seabrook 49
Mary A Seabrook 48
Susannah Seabrook 12
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Possibly Susannah in 1901- which suggests an older daughter too
Name: Susan Seabrook
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Sister-in-law
Gender: Female
Where born: Eddlesborough, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Hemel Hempstead
Ecclesiastical parish: Boxmoor St John
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England


Registration district: Hemel Hempstead
Sub-registration district: Hemel Hempstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
Dorothy Scrivener 9
Grace Scrivener 6
Mary A Scrivener 32
Sarah Scrivener 11
William Scrivener 34
Susan Seabrook 22


They are living on two waters Road - ( know that no longer has houses on it)
==============================
she might be a Matilda , hang on!

1891
Name: William Scrivener
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Matilda
Gender: Male
Where born: Little Gaddesden, Hertfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Eddlesborough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Eddlesborough
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England


Registration district: Leighton Buzzard
Sub-registration district: Edlesborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Matilda Scrivener 22
Sarah Scrivener 3/12
William Scrivener 26



Tina

Tina Report 21 Sep 2007 12:37

Hi David

That has to be my grans grandfather as he was jason seabrook and i know he had a daughter they called Nellie so i assume that is ellen right? Im sure my gran stated she never married and ended up owning a house where she kept just chickens called mill house mill cottage or mill farm.

Now his other daughter should be Louisa Ellen but she went by the name Ellen. All confusing i know,lol.

Penny

Penny Report 21 Sep 2007 12:48

1881 -

Name: Matilda Seabrook
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Edlesborough, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Edlesborough
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Occupation: Strawplaiter

Registration district: Leighton Buzzard
Sub-registration district: Edlesborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Seabrook 4
Mary Ann Seabrook 38
Matilda Seabrook 12
Susannah Seabrook 2
David Simmons 75 <<


Penny

Penny Report 21 Sep 2007 12:50

and 1871

Name: Jason Seabrook
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Edlesborough, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Edlesborough
Town: Edlesborough
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Registration district: Leighton Buzzard
Sub-registration district: Edlesborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 145
Household Members: Name Age

James H Seabrook 4 months
Jason Seabrook 28
Mary A Seabrook 27
Mary A M Seabrook 2

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marriage
Name: Jason Seabrook /Mary Ann Simmons
Year of Registration: 1864
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Leighton Buzzard
County: Bedfordshire, Buckinghamshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 927

Penny

Penny Report 21 Sep 2007 12:54

in 1861 Jason was a servant In Harpenden

Name: Jason Seabrook
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Edlesborough, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Harpenden
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

looking at the image, i think he was a Carter , at NEW FARM

David

David Report 21 Sep 2007 12:57

In 1871 Jason and Mary A have:

Mary A c1869
James H c1870.

The race is on for 1851 ;-)

Penny

Penny Report 21 Sep 2007 13:01

1861 mary Ann at home pre marraige with her father david & mother Judith

Name: David S Simmons
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Judith
Gender: Male
Where born: Ringshall, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Edlesborough
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England


Registration district: Leighton Buzzard
Sub-registration district: Edlesborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 45
Household Members: Name Age
Betsy Simmons 22
David S Simmons 51
Judith Simmons 51
Mary Ann Simmons 17

Penny

Penny Report 21 Sep 2007 13:03

1851
Name: Judith Simmons
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: David
Gender: Female
Where born: Edlesborough, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Edlesborough
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Registration district: Leighton Buzzard
Sub-registration district: Leighton Buzzard
ED, institution, or vessel: 2d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Betsy Simmons 12
David Simmons 61
Emma Simmons 14
Jonathan Simmons 4
Judith Simmons 41
Levi Simmons 9
Mary Ann Simmons 7



Penny

Penny Report 21 Sep 2007 13:08

1841 for the full set

Name: Judith Simmons
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810
Gender: Female
Where born: Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Eddlesborough
Hundred: Cottesloe
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Registration district: Leighton Buzzard
Sub-registration district: Eddlesborough
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Betsey Simmons 2
David Simmons 31
Emma Simmons 4
Judith Simmons 31