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i will send for absalom chapples marr cert now
thank you

thank you very much you have worked wonders
now i know how she is on my great great grandmothers death cert as a cousin i will add the detail to my tree i have her parents on already
thank you again

And now I have a fly in my ointment, it is a work in progress you know, lol.

In 1841 this is the only Elizabeth Turner the right age in Seaton

William Turner 45
Dorothy Turner 35
Mary Turner 15
Elizabeth Turner 12
Sarah Turner 7
George Turner 4
John Turner 2

and she was christened in 1828 in Colyton.

So my tale may have gone off the tracks and what you really need is to get the marriage certificate for Absolom Chappel to find out who his wife really was and who her father was!

Here are Frances (Partridge) and Robert Turner in 1841

Name: Frances Turner
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1796
Gender: Female
Where born: Devon, England

Civil parish: Seaton
Hundred: Colyton
County/Island: Devon

Robert Turner 55
Frances Turner 45


Here is Francis in 1851 with a more accurate birthdate

Name: Frances Turner
Age: 58
Estimated birth year: abt 1793
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Robert
Gender: Female
Where born: Beer, Devon, England

which matches the Fanny Partride christening 1792

so the mother of Elizabeth Turner Chapple must have been the sister of Jacob Partridge who was Eliza Partridge Searle's father

FANNY PARTRIDGE
Christening: 09 DEC 1792 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England
Parents:
Father: MALACHI PARTRIDGE
Mother: SUSANNA
Source Information:
Batch No.: C051991


So Elizabeth Turner Chapple and Eliza Partridge Searle were in fact first cousins. Elizabeth's mother was younger than Eliza's father and Eliza was born much earlier than Elizabeth but they are the same generation.

As best I can figure anyway!

you are better than i am

Oops we are crossing in the post.

If Elizabeth Turner Chapple's mother was Frances Partridge christened 1809 then she is the daughter of Eliza Partridge's uncle Malachi Partridge and his wife Rebecca Bools who married in 1806.

Frances Partridge was herself the daughter of Jacob Partridge and Elizabeth Bools who married in 1811.

I don't think we can tell from what we have whether Elizabeth Turner Chapple's mother was Frances Partridge or Fanny Partridge of the previous generation. Let us check a little more ...

Can't find births for Elizabeth Bools and Rebecca Bools in the IGI.

I think this would be Frances Partridge mother of Elizabeth Turner Chapple

FRANCES PARTRIDGE
Christening:
15 JAN 1809 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England
Parents:
Father: MALACHI PARTRIDGE
Mother: REBECCA
(Rebecca Bools married in 1806)
Source Information:
Batch No.: C051991


Children of Malachi Partridge and Susannah

Partridge, British Isles
Father: Malachi , Mother: Susannah
Batch Number: C051991

1. FANNY PARTRIDGE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 09 DEC 1792 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England
>>> this could be the Frances who was mother of Elizabeth Turner Chapple

2. JACOB PATRIDGE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 07 JUL 1784 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England
>>> father of Eliza Partridge Searle

3. JAMES PARTRIDGE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 11 OCT 1789 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England
4. HENRY PARTRIDGE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 23 FEB 1787 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England

5. MALACHI PATRIDGE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 08 NOV 1778 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England
>>> father of Frances who was christened in 1809

6. JOHN PATRIDGE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 29 MAY 1776 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England
7. ELIZABETH PARTRIDGE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 17 APR 1796 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England
8. SUSANNAH PATRIDGE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 09 SEP 1781 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England


So Elizabeth Turner Chapple's mother Frances Partridge was
either
Fanny the sister of Eliza Partridge Searle's father Jacob
or
Frances the daughter of Eliza Partridge Searle's father's brother Malachi

!!

And there may be a Bools relationship too

Eliza Partridge Searle's mother was Elizabeth Bools
If Elizabeth Turner Chapple's mother was Frances Partridge christened 1809, her grandmother was Rebecca Bools ... perhaps the sister of Elizabeth Bools Partridge ...

is frances partridge the sister of my 2x great grandmother eliza i havent got her on my tree

thank you

Good, she was Partridge, so I think we can be sure that is the family connection! What exactly it was ... I am still hunting in the IGI.

thank you traced the cousin relationship now

hi
eliza partridge & daniel searle are my 2x great grandparents i have thier marr cert
her parents my 3 x great grandparents

Still trying to find a surname connection here!

If Eliza was Partridge (you need the Daniel Searle marriage certificate, or please tell us if you know Eliza's surname)

ELIZA PARTRIDGE
Christening:
08 DEC 1811 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England
Parents:
Father: JACOB PARTRIDGE
Mother: ELIZABETH
Source Information:
Batch No.: C051991


JACOB PARTRIDGE
Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH BOOLS
Marriage: 05 SEP 1811 Seaton And Beer, Devon, England
Source Information:
Batch No.: M051991


I think if you want to discover the family relationship between Eliza and Elizabeth you will need to get their marriage certificates so you know both their surnames for certain.

If Elizabeth Chapple was Elizabeth Seaward, she was christened 1830 in Seaton and Beer and her parents were Robert Seaward and Hannah Batten married Seaton and Beer 1824, it seems.

If she was Elizabeth Turner, she was christened 1829 in Seaton and Beer and her parents were Robert Turner and AHA AHA Frances Partridge married Seaton and Beer 1825.

I think that is the cousinship.

Elizabeth Chapple was Elizabeth Turner 1829 the daughter of Frances Partridge.

Eliza Searle was Eliza Partridge 1811.

julie
thank you

thank you

in 1891 Absolom is shown as being a widower:
1891 England Census
about Absalam Chapple
Name: Absalam Chapple
Age: 61
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Beer, Devon, England

Civil parish: Seaton and Beer
Ecclesiastical parish: Seaton and Beer
Town: Beer
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Axminster
Sub-registration district: Colyton
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Absalam Chapple 61
Silas Chapple 21


BUT: there is also an Eliza Chapple shown as being a widow, aged 68 who is a lacemaker:
1891 England Census
about Eliza Chapple
Name: Eliza Chapple
Age: 68
Estimated birth year: abt 1823
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Seaton and Beer, Devon, England

Civil parish: Seaton and Beer
Ecclesiastical parish: Seaton and Beer
Town: Beer
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Axminster
Sub-registration district: Colyton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Chapple 68
Elizabeth Bartlett 23

and her next door neighbour is Elizabeth Chapple shown as head of household and married but living alone, also a lacemaker

Unfortunately the two women's birth surnames don't provide any clues and in fact we can't even be sure from the marriage registration info what they were, lol.

Marriages Jun 1853 (>99%)
>> Chappel Absalom Axminster 5b 19
Oldridge Timothy Thomas Axminster 5b 19
?? Seaward Elizabeth Axminster 5b 19
?? Turner Elizabeth Axminster 5b 19

Marriages Dec 1840 (>99%)
(??) HOLMES Elizabeth Axminster 10 13
JENKINS Sarah Axminster 10 13
MAJOR James Axminster 10 13
ORLEY William Axminster 10 13
?? PARTRIDGE Eliza Axminster 10 13
Pierce Harriot Axminster 10 13
POTTER John Axminster 10 13
?? SEARLE Daniel Axminster 10 13

julie
i think we are on the right tracks
thank you

and 1881?

1881 England Census
about Elizth Chapple
Name: Elizth Chapple
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Absolom
Gender: Female
Where born: Beer, Devon, England

Civil parish: Seaton and Beer
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street Address: East Side of Beer Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Lacemaker

Registration district: Axminster
Sub-registration district: Colyton
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Absolom Chapple 50
Elizth Chapple 50
Thirza Chapple 14
Silas Chapple 12

julie that looks promising
thank you