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Wilfrid Stuart William

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Anne

Anne Report 24 Sep 2009 17:49

I am looking for any information on Wilfred Stuart William.
Other spellings may be the reason that unable to find.
Spellings could be different and the Stuart-William was hyphenated, but may not show on records.

Wilfrid Stuart William
Stuart-William, Stuart-Williams, S William Williams
I have not managed to find any GROs for him.

I have one census record for him in 1901 Ampthill, Woburn, Bedfordshire from the 1901 census. But no others with Wilfrid on them!

Wilfrid was an engineer in India

Fathers name was James William (no other information to go on)

Other locations known are Oxford possible school or University.

Born about 1864
Died about 1906 possible India
Married 27/09/1893 to Mabel Hawkins
The marriage date for Mabel Hawkins and Wilfrid was from a distant relative, but he was not sure where he got the info from.
I do not know if Wilfrid was divorced from Mable Hawkins.
So a GRO from that would be great.

Married Alice Jane Robson (my great Nan), about 1903 give or take a few years.
Possible Marriage in Newcastle upon Tyne may even have been in India. Or may have been married around North Humberland areas as my granddad was born in Newcastle
Later a girl was born 1904 in Surrey and on her birth certificate father was Wilfrid Stuart-William
GRO needed for the wedding, if married in England

My granddad was brought up only by his mother Alice Jane Stuart William. (She was a governess) So I am looking for information on her and Wilfrid Stuart-William.
He died in India from dysentery in 1906 information given to me.
No death info found

Because none of this information was passed down the line, it is only what I have found since my granddad passed away. So unsure even if Alice knew anything about Wilfred’s previous marriage to Mabel Hawkins and his 2 or 3 children from that marriage!

The birth information for Mable is still of use to me as I know that Wilfrid had 2 or 3 children from Mabel’s marriage. As well as 2 children from Alice Jane Stuart William (Nee Robson)

Any help would be much appreciated as come to a dead end.
Thank you in advance
Anne

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 24 Sep 2009 17:51

Please post the 1901 census details.........

Where did you find out his exact marriage date?

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 24 Sep 2009 17:59

1901 Ancestry for ref:
Name: Wilfrid Stuart William
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Son-in-law
Spouse's Name: Maud Stuart
Gender: Male
Where born: Puryaub, India
Civil parish: Woburn
Ecclesiastical parish: Woburn St Mary
Town: Woburn
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England
Occupation:Civil engineer

Registration district: Ampthill
Sub-registration district: Woburn
ED, institution, or vessel: 16

Household schedule number: 107
Household Members:
Name Age
Anna E Hawkins 62
Maude Hawkins 34
Philip Hawkins 34
Maud Stuart William 33
Wilfrid Stuart William 36
Lawrence S William 4
Victor S William 3

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1506; Folio: 94; Page: 15

Maureen.

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 24 Sep 2009 18:17

The two young sons were born in India.............

I find it odd that two living daughters (of the Hawkins family) should both have the name Maud(e)

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 24 Sep 2009 18:20

1891

Name: Anna E Hawkins
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Woburn, Bedfordshire, England

Civil parish: Woburn
Ecclesiastical parish: Woburn
Town: Woburn
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Woburn
Sub-registration district: Woburn
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Anna E Hawkins 52
Maude Hawkins 24
Ernest J Hawkins 19
Ann Applegate 72
Harriet Sparrow 27
Albert E Applegate 16

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 24 Sep 2009 18:24

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm.that's more like it.............1881

Wilfried's wife was Mabel - I thought the image for 1901 looked more like Mabel than Maud

Name: Anna Hawkins
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: B. Lawrence
Gender: Female
Where born: Woburn, Bedfordshire, England

Civil parish: Woburn
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England

Street Address: No 4 George St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Woburn
Sub-registration district: Woburn
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
B. Lawrence Hawkins 49 born Middlesex
Anna Hawkins 42
Maud Hawkins 14
Mabel Hawkins 13
Charles Hawkins 11
Ernest Hawkins 9
Ann Applegate 58
Harriet Sparrow 18

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 24 Sep 2009 18:25

Could this be Anna and her daughters Maude and MABEL, on the 1881

B. Lawrence HAWKINS Head M Male 49 Middlesex, England Surgeon & Physician M.R.C.S.
Anna HAWKINS Wife M Female 42 Woburn, Bedford, England
Maud HAWKINS Daur Female 14 Woburn, Bedford, England Scholar
Mabel HAWKINS Daur Female 13 Woburn, Bedford, England Scholar
Charles HAWKINS Son Male 11 Woburn, Bedford, England Scholar
Ernest HAWKINS Son Male 9 Woburn, Bedford, England Scholar
Ann APPLEGATE Serv W Female 58 Dolton, Norfolk, England Domestic Serv
Harriet SPARROW Serv U Female 18 Sudbury, Suffolk, England

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 24 Sep 2009 18:31

Mabel's birth but doesn't help.

Births Sep 1867 Hawkins Mabel Woburn 3b 377

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 24 Sep 2009 21:17

Where does Alice Jane Robson fit in with this?

If she was your great-grandmother - which of her children was your grandparent?

Please tell us what you know about this person - full name, year of birth, place of birth.

Please don't amend your original posting - look just below your thread title and click on the purple REPLY button.

Anne

Anne Report 24 Sep 2009 21:46

Sorry amended the information at the top. New to this.
Alice was my great Nan my grandad was Hector S-W

Freewheel

Freewheel Report 24 Sep 2009 21:54

If you wish to find GRO info, just go to freebmd and search

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/

It covers England and Wales only between 1837 and 1935-ish

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 25 Sep 2009 20:55

This is on www.familysearch.org

Wilfred Lawrence Stuart William
Birth: 09 AUG 1896 , West Bengal, India
Christening: 11 OCT 1896 Mussoorie, , West Bengal, India
Father: Wilfred Arthur William
Mother: Mabel

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 25 Sep 2009 21:07

This is Alice on the 1911

STUART WILLIAM HECTOR M 1903 8 Richmond Surrey
STUART WILLIAM MONA F 1905 6 Richmond Surrey
STUART WILLIAM ALICE F 1873 38 Richmond Surrey

I forgot to say that if Wilfred junior (Lawrence) was born 1896 to Mabel, then the marriage to Alice Robson seems later. Perhaps 1900 is a closer year.

Edit: Had a mad moment. Just realised he is with Mabel on the 1901 and Alice is the parent of Hector born 1903!

Is this his children's births

Births Jun 1903
STUART-WILLIAM Hector Lisle Newcastle T. 10b 94

Births Dec 1904
STUART-WILLIAM Mona Wilfrida Richmond, S. 2a 484




Anne

Anne Report 12 Oct 2010 18:50

Still having problems finding a marriage for Alice Jane Robson and Wilfred Arthur Stuart William.
These are my great grandparents. My Grandad Hector was born in 1903 in Newcastlle-Upon Tyne. But not sure where they met. it could have been in India. So possible marriage there!

Prior to this relationship Wilfred was married to Mabel Hawkins in India.
At the moment unsure if there was a divorce! But Wilfred and Mabel did have 4 children. My grandad would not have been aware that he had half siblings when he was alive. Also found a marriage certificate for Wilfreds other son. (Wilfred) On the marriage father Wilfred was not deceased so the son may not have known about his fathers death in 1906 India, So he may have abandoned the first family.

Some records just show Wilfred as
Wilfred Williams
Wilfred Arthur William
Wilfred Arthur Stuart-William

chris

chris Report 20 Feb 2017 05:13

Wilf Stuart William was my great grandfather. There was no divorce -- he died young and his wife Mabel was my great grandmother who i knew well -- she died at 98 when i was in my 20s. she was known in her family as Dame. her grandfather was Benjamin Waterhouse Hawkins, a sculptor and artist who modeled the dinosaurs in the Great Exhibition in the mid 19th century. Dame's father was a surgeon who worked in Sebastopol during the Crimean war with Florence Nightingale. Dame won a silver medal at the Slade School of Art in London in 1871. hope this helps ....

chris

chris Report 20 Feb 2017 05:21

Anna was my grandmother, Dame's daughter, always known as Peggy. Married to Place, children were Basil Charles Godfrey, and Helen Margaret my mother. Godfrey won a VC in WW II as a mini sub commander attacking the Tirpitz. Helen married Ernest Marchant Kenber (originally Schnackenberg) and I am their son. i have one brother, Tony (younger than me). I'm English but have lived in the USA since 1972. Married to Patricia Buckler in 1968 -- two sons, Daniel and Benjamin.