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hi, do you know how would i go about finding any info on the will

Thinking aloud now .....

So there's a possibility the original German Buxton died in NSW but had a son who had/made a fortune in Australia & returned to England.

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It's interesting how the brothers found in the 1841 census, John & German, have humble origins - colliers. In later censuses they both have businesses & their father is a farmer of 72 acres. Do you think they may have inherited the original German's fortune? I wonder if there's a will?

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I have a big hunch that German & John are the ones referred to as having a partnership in a coal mine, & German is the one who had the shop. However where the original German fits in is a mystery.

Ozi.

Here's that birthplace again, so German in 1881 links up.

1851 England Census
Name: John Baxton
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Grenhill Lane, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Sutton in Ashfield
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street address: 738 Forrest St

Occupation: licensed victualler & farmer

Registration district: Mansfield
Sub-registration district: Warsop
ED, institution, or vessel: 1c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 150
Household Members: Name Age
John Baxton 34
Sarah Baxton 26
Elizabeth Ann Baxton 7
William Baxton 4
Samuel Dennis 30 - farm servant
Ann Allen 21 - house servant

NSW deaths:

Reg No. & Year: V18352196 19/1835
Name: BUXTON, JARMAI
AGE 45

Could be a mistranscription

1881 England Census
Name: German Buxton
Age: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Caroline
Gender: Male
Where born: Greeny Lane, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Sutton in Ashfield
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Adress: Low St

Occupation: Grocer

Registration district: Mansfield
Sub-registration district: Sutton In Ashford
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
German Buxton 62
Caroline Buxton 61

1861 England Census
Name: German Buxton
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Caroline
Gender: Male
Where born: Green Hill Lane, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Sutton in Ashfield
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street address: Low St

Occupation: Grocer

Registration district: Mansfield
Sub-registration district: Sutton in Ashfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
German Buxton 41
Caroline Buxton 40


1871 England Census
Name: German Buxton
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Caroline
Gender: Male
Where born: Alfreton, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Sutton in Ashfield
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street address: 25 Low St

Occupation: Grocer

Registration district: Mansfield
Sub-registration district: Sutton in Ashfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
German Buxton 51
Caroline Buxton 50

And now it's really confusing.

1841 England Census
Name: Ann Buxton
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1793
Gender: Female

Civil Parish: Skegby
Hundred: Broxtow (North Division)
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Mansfield
Sub-registration district: Sutton in Ashfield
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Buxton 49 - collier
Ann Buxton 48
Jarman Buxton 22 - collier
John Buxton 24 - collier
William Buxton 18 - collier
Ann Buxton 16
Mary Buxton 14
Tryfena Buxton 11
Jarman Marsh 1
John Beastall 26 - collier
Jarman Beastall 16 - collier
William Smith 19 - servant


I'm not sure whether this is the wrong set of brothers altogether, or it's the right brothers for the mine partnership but the family stories have become confused through the mists of time.

But it's not leading us to your man so far.

1851 England Census
Name: Ann Buxton
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1794
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Woolley Moor, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Hucknall Under Huthwaite
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: Farmer's wife

Registration district: Mansfield
Sub-registration district: Warsop
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
John Buxton 58 - farmer of 72 acres; Wessington, Derbyshire
Ann Buxton 57
Jarmon Buxton 30 - son; miner; Alfreton, Derbyshire
William Buxton 28 - son; miner; Alfreton, Derbyshire
Ann Buxton 25 - daughter; framework knitter; Alfreton, Derbyshire
Levinia Buxton 20 - daughter; needlework; Hucknall, Nottinghamshire
Jarmon Buxton Marshall 10 - grandson; school; Hucknall, Nottinghamshire
John Donald 24 - house labourer

This is starting to look interesting, note John's occupation.

1861 England Census
Name: John Buxton
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Alpeton, Derbyshire, England


Civil Parish: Hucknall Under Huthwaite
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street address: Hucknall

Occupation: Coal Master

Registration district: Mansfield
Sub-registration district: Sutton in Ashfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 146
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Buxton 67 - head; farmer of 12 acres; Woooly Mine [Wooly Moore]. Derbyshire
John Buxton 42
Frances Buxton 24 - household duties
William Buxton 14 - son; coal miner [I'm assuming he's John's son not Ann's who would've been 53 when he was born.]

Marriages Dec 1860
Brooks Sarah Ann Nottingham 7b 333
Buxton John Nottingham 7b 333
Smith John Samuel Nottingham 7b 333
Wass Frances Nottingham 7b 333
Wood Mary Ann Nottingham 7b 333


I know this is a roundabout way of doing things but John Buxton should be a son of German Buxton, if he is a brother to German jnr, & involved in a coal mine. I'm trying to match the John Buxton in 1871 census to your ancestors.

Ozi.

1881 England Census
Name: Frances Buxton
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Sutton In Ashfield

Civil Parish: Sutton in Ashfield
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street address: King Street
Condition as to marriage: Widow

Occupation: Innkeeper

Registration district: Mansfield
Sub-registration district: Sutton In Ashford
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frances Buxton 45
Walter Buxton 14
John Wm. Buxton 9
Arthur Buxton 7
Arthur Whitworth 20 - son-in-law; butcher
Sarah Whitworth 18 - daughter
Hannah White 19 - servant

I wonder?


1871 England Census
Name: John Buxton
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Fanny
Gender: Male
Where born: Alfreton, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Sutton in Ashfield
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street address: 11 King St

Occupation: Beerhouse Keeper

Registration district: Mansfield
Sub-registration district: Sutton in Ashfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
John Buxton 55
Fanny Buxton 35
George Buxton 9
Sarah Buxton 7
Walter Buxton 3
Martha Marrett 12

With ref to Margaret Manson's posting about the history of Sutton-in-Ashfield.

From 'Mining in the East Midlands'.

In 1855, Lady Carnarvon leased her Molyneux Colliery to John & German Buxton, tradesmen of Sutton-in-Ashfield. ...... German Buxton left the partnership after a short time ....... John Buxton left the partnership in 1865.


Ozi.

There are Jarman Buxtons too.


Ozi.

Didn't realize there were so many German Buxtons. There are these 2 on BVRI:

BUXTON, German Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 15 Jan 1786 Recorded in: Crich, Derbyshire, England
Father: Thomas BUXTON
Source: FHL Film Dates: 1765 - 1810

BUXTON, Jerman Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 21 Oct 1787 Recorded in: Crich, Derbyshire, England
Father: John BUXTON
Source: FHL Film Dates: 1765 - 1810

Abouth the right age range.


1841 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Jepson
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781
Where born: Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Shirland
Hundred: Scarsdale
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address: Shirland

Occupation:

Registration district: Chesterfield
Sub-registration district: Ashover
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Jepson 60 - frame work knitter
Elizabeth Jepson 60

???

IGI Individual Record

ELIZABETH BUXTON
Marriages:
Spouse: THOMAS JEPPSON
Marriage: 05 AUG 1829 Alfreton, Derby, England
Source Information:
Batch No.: M046271
Dates: 1813 - 1837

The website for Pentrich Rev states that none of the free men returned to Pentrich so I was wondering about this bloke.

1841 England Census
Name: German Buxton
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781
Gender: Male

Civil Parish: Standish
Hundred: Leyland
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: stonemason [isn't he supposed to have had a quarry in Australia?]

Registration district: Chorley
Sub-registration district: Rivington
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
German Buxton 60
Sarah Buxton 35

hi thanks for that info german 1785 was born in alfreton, he married elizth henshaw b1791c and had a daughter elizabeth 1816 both elizabeths born ilkeston derbyshire. i believe germans parents where samuel buxton 1748c and ann poss fox. after he got sent to australia for life he wrote letters to his family and wife but apparently got no replies so i dont think when he got full pardon in 1830 that he returned to elizabeth and think she may have even remarried???

Crich is only 5 miles from Alfreton.

IGI Individual Record

JERMAN BUXTON
Christening: 21 OCT 1787 Crich, Derby, England
Parents:
Father: JOHN BUXTON