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Member Since: August 2004 Posts: 899 Send Message	*Lindsay*	Report	5 Apr 2008 12:25
Member Since: August 2004 Posts: 899 Send Message	Just noticed, Betsy Harbourne is one of George Chamber's neices on 1861 census. Didn't Mike find a marriage for a Mary Ann HARBOURNE
Member Since: September 2007 Posts: 99 Send Message	Faye	Report	5 Apr 2008 12:26
	Thanks for that lindsey, it sure is getting complex now, i am not sure who james is the son of, i have not been able to find many of my gt gt gt granfathers siblings on records to see what happened to them, i only have vague info on the family and rough information
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	WayneTracey	Report	5 Apr 2008 12:26
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	All the Harriet births.... with surname dirivatives... Births Mar 1860 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SARGEANT Harriett Henley 3a 514 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1860 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SARGENT Harriett Lambeth 1d _2_ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1861 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SARGEANT Harriett Ann Bethnal Gn 1c 288 SEARSON Harriett Ann Basford 7b 98 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1861 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SARGENT Harriet Liskeard 5c 67 SEARSON Harriet Chesterfield 7b 477 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1861 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SARGINSON Harriet Wisbeach 3b 541 Seargeant Harriet Bridge 2a 538 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1862 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SARGEANT Harriet Jane Portsea 2b 453 SEARGEANT Harriet Elizabeth Melksham 5a 1?7 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1862 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SARGENT Harriet Islington 1b 303 SARJEANT Harriet Maria Henstead 4b 178 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1863 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SARGENT Harriet Sudbury 4a 441 SARSONS Harriet Bromsgrove 6c 415 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1863 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SARSON Harriet Leicester 7a 141 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1863 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SARGENT Harriet Hull 9d 197 SERCOMBE Harriet Ann St Luke 1b 637
Member Since: September 2007 Posts: 99 Send Message	Faye	Report	5 Apr 2008 12:27
	YES! he did lyndsey, well it seems we may have find the right marriage then and she was a harbourne!
Member Since: September 2007 Posts: 99 Send Message	Faye	Report	5 Apr 2008 12:30
	A lot of the information coming up seems to point to the bromsgrove/droiwich, the dates coincide but i am not so sure, and why cant i find the birmingham info, i know for sure some of my other family members were born in birmingham, but can't find them either! i finally after 3 months today found my other gt gt grandads marriage in birmingham by a sheer fluke i think! haha
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	WayneTracey	Report	5 Apr 2008 12:30
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	Maybe Mary Ann in 1851? 1851 England Census Name: Mary A Harbourn Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Niece Gender: Female Where born: Birmm, Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Birmingham Ecclesiastical parish: Bishop Ryder County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: St Peter George Chambers 42 Mary Chambers 45 Mary A Harbourn 8 Charles Simpson 25 << Visitor Reba Simpson 21 << Visitor
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	WayneTracey	Report	5 Apr 2008 12:34
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	Mary Ann Harbourne is not on the 1861 census... so there is a good chance the one Lindsey has found is her....
Member Since: September 2007 Posts: 99 Send Message	Faye	Report	5 Apr 2008 12:35
	If thats her i wonder who her parents are, the spooky thing is my cousins dad was married into a harbourne family in birmingham before he married my dads sister, i am wondering if they are connected, how strange!!
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	WayneTracey	Report	5 Apr 2008 12:36
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	But in 1851 she is with George & Ann Chambers, who she was also with in 1861.... Wonder if there is another close family link somehow?? has she married a cousin?
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	WayneTracey	Report	5 Apr 2008 12:38
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	George's wife Mary... could she be a Sargant or Harbourne by birth?
Member Since: September 2007 Posts: 99 Send Message	Faye	Report	5 Apr 2008 12:40
	Who know's wayne/tracey, this is getting more complex by the minute!!
Member Since: September 2007 Posts: 99 Send Message	Faye	Report	5 Apr 2008 12:42
	Wayne/tracey Isaacs sister is called mary!! maybe we have a link, i havent found her marriage details yet, i only mainly know the direct iinfo link to isaac, other members are a bit sketchy still
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	WayneTracey	Report	5 Apr 2008 12:43
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	Possibly your George.... Maybe need to see who the daughter marries? 1841 England Census Name: George Chambers Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Gender: Male Where born: Warwickshire, England Civil Parish: Beaudesert Hundred: Barlichway (Henley Division) County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Registration district: Stratford on Avon Sub-registration district: Wootton Wawen Elizabeth Chambers 8 George Chambers 30 Mary Chambers 35
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	WayneTracey	Report	5 Apr 2008 12:45
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	Maybe the link isn't Mary... GEORGE CHAMBERS Marriages: Spouse: MARY PRICE Family Marriage: 25 DEC 1828 Aston Juxta Birmingham, Warwick, England
Member Since: September 2007 Posts: 99 Send Message	Faye	Report	5 Apr 2008 12:48
	Just when i thought i was getting somewhere wayne/tracey lol
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	WayneTracey	Report	5 Apr 2008 12:51
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	Lindsey found you this... 1861 census CHAMBERS, George Head Married M 50 Furniture Broker Birmingham Warwickshire CHAMBERS, Mary Wife Married F 54 Birmingham Warwickshire SARGENT, Mary Ann Niece Married F 19 Birmingham Warwickshire SARGENT, James Nephew Married M 20 Wood Turner Birmingham Warwickshire HARBOURNE, Betsey Niece F 11 Birmingham Warwickshire Betsey Harbourne is a Neice unmarried (so Harboune is real name) James Sargant is a Nephew married (male so Sargant is real name) Mary Ann Sargant is a Neice married (Female married so Sargant not real name) But are all related to George & Mary Chambers? Either the enumerator had his knickers in a twist... or we have children from multiple sibling marriages
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	WayneTracey	Report	5 Apr 2008 12:56
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	Possibly James's marriage... Marriages Dec 1858 CLARKE Abraham Foleshill 6d 551 Johnson Sarah Foleshill 6d 551 Sergeant James Foleshill 6d 551 Williams Ann Foleshill 6d 551 As George was a Furniture Broker and James was a wood turner.... could he have been living with his Uncle for work purposes?
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	WayneTracey	Report	5 Apr 2008 12:58
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	I've just realised... we need to be looking at maybe George's SISTER'S to see whom they married? Maybe George is the link? His sisters have married into the Harbourne & Sargant familes? Which gives more credibility to the theory that Mary Ann married a Cousin?? Maybe James Brother?
Member Since: September 2007 Posts: 99 Send Message	Faye	Report	5 Apr 2008 12:59
	So what i need to find is where James sargent fits into it, he could be a child of isaacs fathers brother, i don't know who isaacs fathers siblings are as hes married by the first census in 1841 so can get no idea of who his parents/siblings were :o( You could be onto something there wayne/tracey!
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	WayneTracey	Report	5 Apr 2008 13:03
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 7,446 Send Message	well they need to be related to George or Mary to be their direct relatives.... Issac is only the link ATM thru marriage? There is probably a co-incidental relation with Isaac with the cousin link?

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