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yeah will do. probably take a while to order certificate.
ill speak to my dad. don't think he'll remember death years though

please post on here details of marriage cert then and we will see if we can find a birth if it gives an age or other details that might help
Do you have any death years for them

thanks this is helping
deff know now that its Horace burley and Irene plumb so will maybe get marriage certificate.
might not be born i guess round that area but moved one time.
i have the address for horace in wisbech but doesn't show up on 1901 census. prob wasn't built!!

"little sleep!!"
I suppose we will have to wait and see if Adrian is going to get the marriage cert and/or if he knows when they died to have a look for death index for their ages

- and another possibility is that Thomas might be Horace's older brother or uncle ...

Hi Janice,

You've either had precious little sleep, or are overseas! I've been wondering about this too, and had a look at this site:

http://www.leinster-regiment-association.org.uk/

It has a regimental history on it, but so far there appear to be no links to the regiment recruiting in East Anglia. I did get excited when I saw that they had been in Jamaica, and that one of the Thomas Burley service/pension records was for a lad born in Jamaica, but checking it out showed that it was the wrong regiment.

Looking at more of the specific biogs of Leinster soldiers, there was one whose ancestor joined up in London - perhaps Thomas only settled in East Anglia after discharge from the regiment?

If he was born in Cambridgeshire then there is this in 1901 but perhaps to old, so as Ivy said may have been born after 1901
Do you know when he died?

Name: Horace W Bradley
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: March, Cambridgeshire, England

Civil Parish: March
Ecclesiastical parish: March St John
Town: March
County/Island: Cambridgeshire

Ithink a marriage certificate may be needed to hopefully give his age have found this but now think his father is perhaps James in 1901 census???could be
Name: Horace Bradley
Year of Registration: 1897
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Wisbech
County: Cambridgeshire, Norfolk
Volume: 3b
Page: 592

1901
Name: Horace Bradley
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Selina
Gender: Male
Where born: Murrow, Cambridgeshire, England

Civil Parish: Southea Cum Murrow
Ecclesiastical parish: Southea cum Murrow
Town: Murrow
County/Island: Cambridgeshire

Hi Janice,

I agree, that looks like it isn't him (was always a long shot...)

There don't seem to be obvious candidates for either Irene or Horace - I'm guessing that they were born after 1901?

Horace born Sleaford
in 1901 census so don't think it is him wrong father

Name: Horace L Burley
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: Sleaford, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: New Sleaford
Ecclesiastical parish: New Sleaford St Denys
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

marriage index then
Horace Burley/Irene Plumb
Wisbech
volume 3b
page1463
June quarter 1930

A certificate may give a few more clues to family details

ok full index then

Name: Cissie Elsie Salamon
Birth Date: 17 Oct 1932
Death Registration Month/Year: Oct 1997
Age at death (estimated): 65
Registration district: Kings Lynn
Inferred County: Norfolk
Register number: 51A
Entry Number: 15
you can order certificates from this offical site ,cost £7 using index details
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

Birth details:

Burley, Cissie E.
Mother's maiden name Plumb
Oct-Dec 1932
Wisbech 3b 643

nope got it
CISSIE ELSIE SALAMON
died: October 1997
born: 17 OCT 1932

:)

my nan cissie (or celia) salamon. died 1997

the number for thomas isl is 5557 which is leinster regiment
horace ww2 medal has no numbers which is annoying

Are there any numbers round the rim of the medal. i.e. his regimental number

This is about the closest to Wisbech Horace Burley birth around 1900:

Name: Horace Leonard Burley
Year of Registration: 1899
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Sleaford (To 1933)
County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 495

You'd need to get your nan's birth certificate to identity her parents - as Janice says, if you can find the death registration, it will give you her date of birth (if the informant had remembered it correctly)

what was your nans name .I can look for death index. If you got the certificate it would say who registered it if that helps

well my nan was born in wisbech, cambridgeshire so im guessing that they went there. never had irish accent or mention irish family so guessing english person joined the regiment when based here

Leinster was an Irish regiment. Have a look at this website:

http://tinyurl.com/3gt7tc

His medal card is on Ancestry, but you already have that, and unlike some which give addresses on the back, his is blank.

I think you can search Ancestry for free for deaths after 1984.

You might then need to ask for look-ups or join Ancestry or Findmypast to find births/marriages between 1930 and 1984, if they were in England and Wales. If Thomas is from Ireland, you may need to trace these through their registration system. Do you think Horace was perhaps born in England/Wales? The birth registration details may be available for free on Free BMD if it was around 1910-1925.