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help i have a marriage,but can't make out!

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°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 5 May 2008 22:38

You're welcome

Linda

Linda Report 5 May 2008 22:27

thank you all for your help, sorry to of took up your time.
i will order thouse cert's tonight then when i do receive them i will studie them carefully!!!
once again thankyou all for your help.
linda

Linda

Linda Report 5 May 2008 21:39

i shall order the other cert for 1874 emma rebecca jones&john thomas brobyn tonight. i will also order one of childrens do you think that will be right.
linda

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 5 May 2008 21:33

Linda, Emma Rebecca Jones & John Thomas Brobyn didn't marry until 1874

I think the marriage cert you have in your hand is for John Brobyn & Mary Ann Penn who married in 1872.

Linda

Linda Report 5 May 2008 21:30

i am trying to make out some sence of the marriage cert that i have received. which is defanatly for john t brobyn and emma rebecca brobyn and thats was the one i sent for because it said that was who my grandfathers parents were , i hope this explains it a bit better.
linda

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 5 May 2008 21:20

Copy of Reggie's post from previous thread

"Reggie

Request review
26th April 2008 11:04
???????

Name: John Thomas Brobyn
Year of Registration: 1874
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 367


Possible spouse.........

Name: Emma Louisa Brain
Year of Registration: 1874
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 387

OR...............(more likely, in view of second name)
Name: Emma Rebecca Jones
Year of Registration: 1874
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 368


Would advise verifying by purchasing cert.......or that of one of the the offspring"

Sorry Linda but you have ordered the wrong cert.

Linda

Linda Report 5 May 2008 21:14

this is the one i sent for:john brobyn
emma maiden not known) District, westbury on severn.
volume 6a page 442 1872 quarter s.

Sue in Somerset

Sue in Somerset Report 5 May 2008 21:01

I bet they are cousins of some sort.

Sue

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 May 2008 21:01

Linda


I am confused!!

You said you had sent for the marriage certificate of John Brobyn, and got one that had his wife as Mary Ann

But you wanted it to be John Brobyn and Emma Rebecca

NOW you're saying it was John T Brobyn's marriage certificate you sent for:--

"William henry Brobyn was my Grandmothers Father and his Father was john t brobyn. and it was his marriage cert i sent for, and i did find the marriage of his mother and father who were john t brobyn to emma rebbecca jones."


So just WHO are you trying to find?


sylvia

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 5 May 2008 20:57

Linda I've nudged a previous thread (it's on Tips). For some reason the marriage cert that you have is NOT the one that Reggie recommended you buy.

Linda

Linda Report 5 May 2008 20:51

yes i beleive john named one of his off springs john aswell.
linda

Linda

Linda Report 5 May 2008 20:49

let me explain!!
William henry Brobyn was my Grandmothers Father and his Father was john t brobyn. and it was his marriage cert i sent for, and i did find the marriage of his mother and father who were john t brobyn to emma rebbecca jones.
linda

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 5 May 2008 20:46

Linda although the marriage cert you have is wrong you will probably find that you'll use it later because I bet the 2 John's are related

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 May 2008 20:43

Definitely two different families!


sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 May 2008 20:42

1881 Census

John and Emma

Name: John Brobyn
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Little Dean
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address: Broad Street
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Iron Miner

Registration district: Westbury On Severn
Sub registration district: Newnham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age

Emma Brobyn 28
Frederick Brobyn 4
Jane Brobyn 6
John Brobyn 29
William Brobyn 1


vs. John and Mary

Name: John Brobin
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Littledean, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Westbury On Severn - East Dean
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address: Littledean Hill
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Coal Miner

Registration district: Westbury On Severn
Sub registration district: Newnham
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age

Albert Brobin 2
George Brobin 6
John Brobin 28
Mary Brobin 28
Tom Brobin 8
William Brobin 5



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 May 2008 20:40

Two John Brobyn/Brobin on the 1881 Census


View Record
John Brobin Mary abt 1853 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Head Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire Coal Miner


John Brobyn Emma abt 1852 Gloucestershire, England Head Little Dean, Gloucestershire Iron Miner



sylvia

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 5 May 2008 20:36

1871 England Census
about Mary A Penn
Name: Mary A Penn
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: East Dean
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Westbury On Severn
Sub registration district: Newnham
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Penn 13
Jane Penn 36
Jane Penn 5
John Penn 2
Mary A Penn 18
Thomas Penn 44
Thomas Penn 15
William Penn 6


SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 May 2008 20:34

The marriage in 1872 was presumably John Brobyn and Mary Ann Penn

Marriages Sep 1872 (>99%)

Brobyn John Westbury S. 6a 442
Dobbs Eliza Westbury S. 6a 442
Ludlow Alvin Westbury S. 6a 442
Penn Mary Ann Westbury S. 6a 442



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 May 2008 20:31

I looked for deaths of a Brobyn 1872 to 1875, wondering if Mary Ann had died and John had married twice.

No Mary Ann Brobyn death BUT there was this one


Deaths Dec 1874 (>99%)

BROBYN John 32 Westbury S 6a 167




Could this be the answer????? There was another John Brobyn who married Mary Ann?



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 5 May 2008 20:25

Emma's marriage registration . somehow has got different page number

Marriages Mar 1874 (>99%)

JONES Emma Rebecca Westbury S 6a 368



Just looked at the image, and this page number is correct for Emma ....... but p. 367 is correct on the image for John!



sylvia