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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Jan 2022 11:51

Daphne's daughter probably married Raymond E Smith in 1987 (see on FreeBMD) - and is therefore presumably Esta.

That couple have a son Darren, who's listed with them until 2018 on the ER for Newport.
Raymond's on the 2021 ER, Susan's only listed until 2015.

Sadly, she died:

SMITH, SUSAN 1966
GRO Reference: DOR Q1/2015 in NEWPORT (836-1E) Entry Number 511380739

You can find Raymond's exact address on the Electoral Rolls, under "Search" at top right of this page. Click on the document symbol to the right of the search result, to see the address.

I'll PM the address as well, in case you can't find it, and in case you think it might be helpful to contact him.


LATER:
PM of thanks for address received.

Carly

Carly Report 17 Jan 2022 11:47

Yes, so it does, just found the records on freedmb

A great lead, thanks a lot

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Jan 2022 11:40

I gave you Daphne's married surname - follow-through on it

EDITED

Records suggest that SUE is Daphne's daughter

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Jan 2022 11:39


1939 Register
Cattewater Sipson Road, Hillingdon, Yiewsley and West Drayton U.D., Middlesex, England
Ralph Fisher 29 Nov 1915 Male Lorry Driver For Sand Ballast Centre Married 59 1
Amy M Fisher 25 May 1918 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 59 2
The record for this person is officially closed.
Daphne Millichamp (Fisher) 18 Sep 1938 Female Under School Age Single 59 3

Carly

Carly Report 17 Jan 2022 11:36

No, unfortunately the messages have not been opened. But to be honest, after such a long time has passed I didn't really expect them to. Like somebody said, there's many reasons why this could be. I'm not relying on any single person, just exploring different avenues etc.

I've got exact dates and names in my shoebox on ancestry. This will be my next port of call once I've sorted out my subscription. But I am very thankful for the advice and help that you have all given me.

Yes, linking up the marriages for the first three daughters has been trying. To be honest, if I don't get anywhere with it it will be a shame, but I need to try.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Jan 2022 11:30

The mother's second forename was Muriel - a clue, perhaps?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Jan 2022 11:27

You say, "The problem I have is linking up the marriages etc."

I assume you mean the three sisters' marriages, etc?

As said, Kathleen and Jean have such common names that it's pretty much impossible.

If you know their exact dates of birth, that might help - though of course you can't post the dates on here unless they are definitely deceased.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Jan 2022 11:25

The most productive line would be Daphne's.................

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Jan 2022 11:22

Although, as ErikaH says, it's not good to rely on info from other people, so long as you check everything out for yourself, it can be helpful.

Someone called Mary has Jean on her GR tree - as do you and Sue, and possibly others who haven't specified the exact place of birth.

Carly

Carly Report 17 Jan 2022 11:20

Kathleen fisher was born in Shrewsbury in 1944. No sign of a middle name.
I tried freedmb for a possible death cert but no joy. I will try with the middle sister too. Think the logical next step is to try ancestry. The problem I have is linking up the marriages etc.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Jan 2022 11:16

That may possibly be a Kathleen Jackson:

MS Kathleen Fisher
in the England and Wales, Death Index, 1989-2019
Name: MS Kathleen Fisher
Gender: Female
Age: 61
Birth Date: 15 Dec 1944
Last Residence: Ashton-Under-Lyne, Lancashire, England
Postal Code District: Ol6
Death Date: 27 Sep 2005


Kathleen Jackson
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Kathleen Jackson
Registration Date: Jan 1968[Feb 1968] [Mar 1968]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Ashton
Inferred County: Lancashire
Spouse: Alan P Fisher
Volume Number: 10b
Page Number: 132


The husband is on the Ashton ER to 2006 (as is Kathleen to 2005) , and may have died in 2007, registered in Slough.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Jan 2022 11:07

Possible....................

FISHER, KATHLEEN 1944
GRO Reference: DOR Q3/2005 in TAMESIDE (0141A) Reg A72A Entry Number 18
DoB 15/12/1944 - fits with birth registration on freebmd

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Jan 2022 11:05


ErikaH has given details of Daphne, born 1938.

Unfortunately the other two girls have such common names that it's impossible to know which marriage or death records could be theirs.

Do you know the second daughter's middle name? That might help narrow the field.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Jan 2022 10:55

Relying so much on someone else is not really a good idea.............especially someone who may never respond, for whatever reason

Has your message been opened?



Carly

Carly Report 17 Jan 2022 10:48

Thanks so much for this.
I knew from sue smiths original post that daphne had passed away but had no idea that she was so young. Very sad.
To be honest I have a hard time navigating through all this. I feel like I'm going round in circles. I'm going to redo my ancestry subscription this week. I feel like sue smith is the key to all this its just tracking her down. Still no reply from either sue or Naomi who also has relatives in common. Somebody mentioned a Darren smith on ancestry so I'm going to check this out in the next few days.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Jan 2022 09:32

Daphne Fisher married Millichamp. She died in 1970
Two children
The info can be found on freebmd

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Jan 2022 09:16

Deaths after 2008 up to 2019 in England/Wales are on the GRO website. FREE to use, although one has to register

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

Have you looked for marriages? I think you said they were all female

Carly

Carly Report 16 Jan 2022 21:28

All this information is excellent!
My grandfather was Robert and my grandmother was Amy.
I found out that Amy had three children from a previous marriage before her marriage to Robert. Robert had a lot of aliases, and apart from his marriage cert to Amy there isn't much known about him apart from personal things my dad has told me from his childhood.
It is the previous three children I am interested in finding on my dads behalf. He had no idea about them until I joined ancestry and as these are his half sisters he is very interested in finding them.
As far as I can make out, sue smith mentioned on a thread that one of them had passed away and didn't want to name the other two as they were still alive, but this was 2008.
I have found their birth certificates but from there I have no idea.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Jan 2022 19:38

Marriages Dec 1940 (>99%)
Sivado Charles R T B Tier Worthing 2b 1251
Tier Constance M P Sivado Worthing 2b 1251

Two daughters - info on freebmd

Death of the younger one
Hockley
Maureen Constance
1944
2005
England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Worthing, Sussex, England



First name(s) Robert Charles Temple
Last name Sivado
Original source Royal Artillery Attestations 1883-1942
Service number 1548741
Record set World War 2 Allies Collection
Regiment The Royal Regiment Of Artillery
Year: 1938

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Jan 2022 19:35

Marriages Jun 1953 (>99%)
BROWN-SIVADO Robert C T PARKHURST Southend 4a 1472
BROWN-SIVADO Robert C T WILLIAMS Southend 4a 1472
BROWN-SIVADO Robert C T FISHER Southend 4a 1472
FISHER Amy M WILLIAMS Southend 4a 1472
FISHER Amy M BROWN-SIVADO Southend 4a 1472
PARKHURST Amy M WILLIAMS Southend 4a 1472
PARKHURST Amy M BROWN-SIVADO Southend 4a 1472
Sivado Robert C T B Parkhurst Southend 4a 1472
Sivado Robert C T B Williams Southend 4a 1472
Sivado Robert C T B Fisher Southend 4a 1472
WILLIAMS Amy M WILLIAMS Southend 4a 1472
WILLIAMS Amy M BROWN-SIVADO Southend 4a 1472
WILLIAMS Robert C T PARKHURST Southend 4a 1472
WILLIAMS Robert C T WILLIAMS Southend 4a 1472
WILLIAMS Robert C T FISHER Southend 4a 1472