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not ruddy soon enough, cass
i want glamorgan,carmarthen and anglesey!!

next year if we,re lucky?
but i think there is a possibility by the autumn?

Update

I've bought credits for 1911 census, but unfortunately can't find them. They must be still in Wales and I've heard it's not on yet, is that correct. Does anyone know when it'll be done??

Thanks

Cass

Hi Margaret
Thanks for your info yes that's their marriage I have the certificate and that's Shem with 1st wife Harriet in 1891 she died in 1893. Shem was a coal miner so I guess he went where the work was.
My G grandfather Alfred Edgar Winson was born 11/1/1885 L'pool the son of Cassandra, I have his birth cert but there's no father listed! on the census index his father's name is down as George ( Cassandra's brother )
On 1901 census he's living with Cassandra's sister Millicent Lawless and her family in Bebington Wirral. George is also living there, they are both gardeners.
I think I may have to wait for 1911 census to find out about Benjamin!
Thanks cassy

Hi Yvonne
Yes that's them in 1901, they were in Rhonda in 1908 when Dorothy died, then in Birkenhead wirral when Cassandra died in 1923 then I found a death for Shem in 1933 in Bridgend. So Benjamin could have been born anywhere!!
Cassy

When was your g. grandfather, Alfred Edgar Winson born? Sounds as if he was a son of Cassandra before she married Shem in 1899 but if that's the case where was he on the 1901 census?

Edit, just had a thought, was he Alfred Edgar Winson Thomas?

He's back in Wales for the 1891 census:

Name: Shem Thomas
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet
Gender: Male
Where born: Cilcain, Flintshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Bersham
Ecclesiastical parish: Minera
Town: Coedpoeth
County/Island: Denbighshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Wrexham
Sub registration district: Wrexham
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
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Household Members: Name Age
Harriet Thomas 31 (born Bersham, Denbighshire, Wales)
Herbert Edward Thomas 3 (born Stusham Cross Ashtar, MacClesfield)
Lillie Myfanwy Thomas 6 (born Spennymoor, Durham)
Robert Samuel Thomas 8 (born Penygelli, Denbighshire, Wales)
Shem Thomas 33
Stephen Lynall Thomas 5 (born Spennymoor, Durham)

His second marriage from BVRI:

THOMAS, Shem Age: 41 Marriage
Wife: Cassandra WINSON Age: 36
Marriage Date: 29 Apr 1899 Recorded in: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Collection: St Luke
Husband previously married
Husband's Father: Benjamin THOMAS
Wife's Father: Jeremiah WINSON
Source: FHL Film 1545921 Dates: 1868 - 1906 Note: Additional Data in Original Record

Hi Cassie, this would seem to be the 1901 census entry for this family, Yvonne

Cassandra Thomas
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Shem
Gender: Female
Where born: Bebbington, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Ince in Makerfield
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Ince
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Hindley
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
Cassandra Thomas 38
Catherine Thomas 9
Douthey Thomas 1
Herber E Thomas 12
Lily M Thomas 16
Robert S Thomas 18
Shem Thomas 43
Shem Thomas 10
Stephen L Thomas 14


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trying to find any relatives of Benjamin Thomas, his parents were Shem and Cassandra Thomas nee Winson.
All I know is that he was born after 1901 census either Lancashire, Cheshire or Wales. He was the informant on Cassandra's death cert in 1923 at the time they were living at 22 Helmingham Road Tranmere Birkenhead Wirral.
Sorry that's all the info I have on him, apart from he had a sister Dorothy Mildred Audrey Thomas born 1900 died 1908 in S. Wales. He also had a half brother Alfred Edgar Winson my G grandfather, 4 half brothers and 2 half sisters from his father's first marriage.
Many thanks for any help and info!
cassy