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Joyce

Just a tip


ages on the 1841 are not accurate for adults, they are rounded to closest 5. So don't take the age of anyone except children as true.

Also, our ancestors often didn't know how old they were!



Did you actually check the image of the 1841 Census ................. it could simply be that the transcriber misread the 7 as a 1



sylvia

Hi Tracey
I have just picked up your various messages on Genes Reunited Trying to find. I am also looking for the Fullers since John Henry's mother was my Great Grandmother(Selina nee Dowse). I have become stuck and cannot get backwards from John Fuller(John Henrys father) He was born in Oxford and according to his marriage certificate his fathers name was Benjamin occupation gardener. I have fou nd a Benjamin (also a gardener) with a son John in the 1841 census but it gives Johns age as 11 when he would have been 17. It sounds as though we have common ancestors and I wonder whether you can shed any light on my mystery.
Kind regards
Joyce

Barbara

I thought it might be!!

It's the kind of trick that I usually try!!!



sylvia

Hi girls

Yes that is exactly what I did Sylvia! Sophia was the least common name.

Glad to have been of help. I do like a mystery!

Barbara

Hi Tracy

Tracy

It is indeed!

We will be in the UK next month, and will bestaying with those ex-Bracknell residents down in sunny Zummerset!


BTW, re how Barbara found the Gullers

....... I'm guessing that what she used was Sophia, b. 1890 +/- 2 years, place or county of birth, father's forename and mother's forename, and then just searched the list of names that resulted.

At least that is the way I would ahve done it!!


sylvia

Sylvia and Barbara

Thank you so much for all your help in solving my mystery!!

Barbara, however did you manage to find my Fullers when they were on the census under a completely different name ? Genius.

Sylvia, fancy you knowing Bracknell, it's a small world isn't it.

Barbara

Thank you!!


it was very satisfying to crack the mystery!!


Thank you for what you did as well.


sylvia

Tracy

I wondered if you were having a late night ... or on another continent like me!! I happen to know Bracknell, we used to have some friends who lived there, and we stayed with them several times before they moved some years ago.


Glad that I could help.

I think some of our ancestors really really tried to hide themselves, just to make it difficult for us!!



sylvia

Hi Sylvia

I'm in Bracknell, Berkshire, England, a small town southwest of London. I went to bed at 4.20am this morning and am now knackered!!
Finding those elusive Fullers completed that family line so thanks very much for all your help.

Tracy

Well done Sylvia! I was asleep while you were doing all this work!

Glad to be of help Tracy. Hope your eyeballs recover!

Barbara

Hi Tracy

Name Age
Frederick Fuller 13 Errand Boy
Henry Fuller 16
Selina Fuller 49 Needlework
Selina B Fuller 13 Art Flower Maker
William Fuller 11 Scholar




That use of initials only crops up every now and again ..... it's often worth using just the surname, birth year and birth county to see if it brings up something like this. I've seen it hapen a number of times!



It's almost 8:30 pm here on the West Coast.

Where are you?


I'm glad I could help!



sylvia

Can you make out the occupations of Selina Fuller age 49 and Selina B Fuller age 13?

Tracy

Sylvia

I think you've got them! John/ Henry's mum was Selina.
I've got that same family from the 1861 census. I wonder why it's all in initials apart from Head of house? I haven't seen that before.
Anyway, the initials do fit with the names on this entry for 1871 don't they.
Yahoo! I think that's them,.
Thank you so much for your help Sylvia.
What time is it in Canada?
Tracy

Hi Tracy


Have I found him in 1871?????


You might recognise siblings.



sylvia

In which case, this could very well be your John Henry in 1871, using his middle name instead of his first name.


Name: Henry Fuller
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Selina
Gender: Male
Where born: Swindon, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Islington St Andrew
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthias
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Islington
Sub registration district: Islington West
ED, institution, or vessel: 46
Household schedule number: 110
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick Fuller 13
Henry Fuller 16 ????Painter or Printer
Selina Fuller 49 Widow
Selina B Fuller 13
William Fuller 11
George Greves 36 Boarder

Address:- 25a Sutterton St, Islington


The house seems to be divided up, with at least 3 or 4 families living there.



sylvia

Is this the family in 1861????

Name: T H Fuller
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: S
Gender: Male
Where born: Swindon, Wiltshire, England

Civil Parish: Islington St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Islington
Sub registration district: Islington West
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 127
Household Members: Name Age
E E Fuller 8
E G Fuller 3
John Fuller 30
M H Fuller 10
S Fuller 38
S B Fuller 3
S J Fuller 11
T H Fuller 5
Wm Thos Fuller 1



sylvia

Thanks Barbara

Guller?? Where on earth did they get that from? It looks like Fuller to me.
Thanks, now just 1871 to go.

Tracy

HI Sylvia

Yes, I think so, I've found the same one

Tracy

Hi Sylvia

Yes that is the correct family

Tracy

so now we just need to find him in 1871 when he would be about 16, and probably not married.


Could this be his marriage, from www.freebmd.org.uk??


Marriages Mar 1877 (>99%)

Field Mary Islington 1b 321
Fuller John Henry Islington 1b 321




sylvia