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Still havent found any details of Eliza B. Walronds husband.

Robert

Do you have any suggestions where to look for Eliza B. Walronds husband ?

Hi Christopher

Just logged on again, at the end of another day's work.

I'll have a dig around for you

Here's the marriage:

Name: William James Walrond
Year of Registration: 1844
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: City of London
County: London
Volume: 2
Page: 161 (click to see others on page)

Her name was Eliza Bell Cox

On the Law List of Country Attorneys for 1843 is this entry:

57. Barking, Essex

Walrond, William James in London and Wells, George in London.

So it looks as if he was either a barrister or a solicitor

The marriage on IGI:

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
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WILLIAM JAMES WALROND Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZA BELL COX Family
Marriage: 04 APR 1844 Saint Stephen Walbrook And Saint Benet Sherehog, London, London, England



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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

M001381 1557 - 1754 942 B4HA V.49 Book 6903546 Film

M001381 1754 - 1860 942 B4HA V.50 Book NONE

M001381 1861 - 1880 0375019 Film NONE


Sheet: 00

As its an extracted record and matches the marriage index, I would say it is accurate

Again on the IGI is another extracted record of his birth:

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
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WILLIAM JAMES WALROND Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 15 AUG 1821

Christening: 10 SEP 1821 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM WALROND Family
Mother: MARY


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C035247 1821 0580910 Film 6903614 Film

C035247 1822 - 1824 0580911 Film NONE

C035247 1825 - 1827 0580912 Film NONE


Sheet: 00

I think that if you have a dig around on familysearch.org you find out a lot more about his family.

I asked yesterday if there might be a Carribean connection. Apparently some of the early English settlers - in the 1600s - were Walronds. They can also be found in Europe and the USA; an all country search will reveal them.

I am not aware of any carribean connection, however we are talking about the 1600s , so anything is possible.

IGI record for Jonathan Maxwell Bruce:

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Jonathan Maxwell Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth: 22 JUN 1873 India Office Ecclesiastical Returns-Bengal Presidency,,Misc, , , India

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: Richard Isaac Bruce Family
Mother: Eliza Maria


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C750234 1873 0499051 Film NONE


So he was born in India.

Richard Isaac Bruce in 1881, described as 'Political Agent in India':

Name: Richard Isaac Bruce
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: St Martin in The Fields
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: Charing Cross Hotel
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Political Agent In India

Registration district: Strand
Sub registration district: St Martin In The Fields
ED, institution, or vessel: Charing Cross Hotel
Neighbors: View others on page

You could try googling his name...

I was completely wrong with the year of birth for Jonathan Maxwell. it seems strange that Richard Bruce would be living in a hotel.

Just googled him myself: enter "Richard Isaac Bruce" including the exclamation marks. A number of books were written about him and there are mentions of his son. For example on this link

http://www.bl.uk/collections/afghan/sources1919to1928.html

there is this research reference:

'Mss Eur F163

BRUCE (Charles Edward), Lt-Col
Bruce Collection: correspondence and papers of Lt-Col Charles Edward Bruce (1876-1950), Indian Army 1896, Indian Political Service 1901-31, and of his father Richard Isaac Bruce (1840-1924), Indian Civil Service 1863-96, relating chiefly to the North-West Frontier and Baluchistan; includes papers on Afghan tribes in the early 20th century.

81 items, 1871 - 1939'

The Mss Eur F163 is the National Archives at Kew reference for the Bruce private papers, which you can access.

I knew there was an indian army connectioon in the family but not all that detail. I take it that charles edward was the brother of jonathan maxwell.

I think you need to do some research and find the connection

For me its been a fascinating journey.

Happy hunting

Robert

Robert

Thank you very much for all your help.

My pleasure

Hi

Mabel Walrond Trengrouse was a daughter to Henry Trengrouse (1842-1927) and his wife Mabel Walrond.

Henry was son to Nicholas Trevenen Trengrouse and Louisa Catherine Oats, from Helston in Cornwall. Louisa was the 12th of 14 children to a Captain Richard Oats from Penzance (her sister Matilda is my ancestor, have a large 1870s photo of her...)

Henry and family moved to London/Surrey area in the 1870s I would imagine.

Hope this helps
Tom Cory.

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