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Re 1911 census --

Is your Walter Sabine not there? There are 3, none of whom seem to be him. Mistranscribed?


I get what you're saying now about Duke + Walter --

WALTER CELIA K F 1886 25 Gravesend Kent
WALTER WILLIAM H M 1882 29 Gravesend Kent
WALTER CHARLES S M 1907 4 Gravesend Kent

Still no trace of this Celia Duke's birth or marriage to William Walter! So we don't actually know that Celia K Walter was née Duke?

Aha.

Marriages Jun 1904
JENNINGS Percy George Gravesend 2a 1192
> Walter William Hayward Gravesend 2a 1192
Wanstall Rose Gravesend 2a 1192
> Williams Celia Kate Gravesend 2a 1192

She wasn't. At least not when she married him.

And if she was born in 1886, she was mighty young to have had a previous marriage!

Red herring, methinks. ;)

I'm not sure where we're at with this ;) ... but could this be the Celia who married Sabine in 1917?


Births Sep 1895
Walters Celia Kate Reading 2c 367

Re the marriage of Celia Duke to William Walter, the 1911 census shows them to be living in Gravesend with their surviving son, Charles, with a declaration that they had completed 7 Years of marriage

My mother Kathleen May Sabine was born on 18th July 1921 and her birth was registered on 5th August 1921. Entry no 379 book 108. District Thanet, sub district Ramsgate

According to his travel details he arrived in the US in 1917. So did he return or is his information being confused with the other Walter Sabine who was born around the same time to George and Sarah?

This appears to be him in 1891 in Streatham.

Walter Sabine
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Jessie M
Gender: Male
Where born: Camberwell, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Streatham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrews
Town: Streatham
County/Island: London
Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub registration district: Streatham
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
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Household Members: Name Age
William Sabine 33
Jessie M Sabine 31
Henrietta J Sabine 10
William Sabine 7
May Sabine 4
Walter Sabine 3
Margaret Sabine 4/12

You'd think maybe Walter was her first married name ... but there doesn't seem to be a Walter-Duke marriage.

Births Sep 1921

Sabine Kathleen M Duke Thanet 2a 2099


Marriages Sep 1917?? There is also:

Sabine Walter J Walter Gravesend 2a 1484
Walter Celia K Sabine Gravesend 2a 1484

Marriages Sep 1878 Parents ??

PARTRIDGE Jessie Maud Camberwell 1d 1003
Sabine William Camberwell 1d 1003

Births Jun 1887 ??

Sabine Walter Charles Camberwell 1d 849

I can find no marriage for Celia Kate Duke?

I have now found out that he was at The Chiltern Hundreds public house in Kent from 1918 - 1922

I am trying to find relatives of Walter James Sabine born 9th May 1887 at 67 Leipsic Road Camberwell and who died on 6th August 1924 in Buenos Airies.

His parents were Walter James and. Jessie ( nee Partridge) Sabine.

He married Celia Kate Duke and had a daughter Kathleen May who was born on 18th July 1921.