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I'm going round in circles Help!

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Spiral

Spiral Report 13 Jun 2008 19:22

Lindylu
Gin makes me terribly depressed, and I am barking as it is with this search, might try Whisky instead. I definately need something strong.
Thanks for looking for me, I warn you though, it will probably drive you to drink too!
Cheryl

Lindylu

Lindylu Report 13 Jun 2008 19:21

When and where was Harriet born?

Lindylu

Lindylu Report 13 Jun 2008 19:19

I recommend Gin Cheryl - but before I start on that I'll have a look for you!

Spiral

Spiral Report 13 Jun 2008 19:16

Lets start from the beginning..

I have my Gt Grandmothers birth cert stating Mary Joynes born 1st July 1890, Willenhall, Staffs. Her father is Edward Joynes and Mother Harriet Joynes formerly Cooper. This much I know is exactly right.

I have tried to trace the marriage of Harriet & Edward and couldn't find one, however I have found a Harriet Cooper marrying an Edward Giles in 1882, which would be about the right year. I thought that maybe with a hard hearing vicar and a very strong Birmingham accent Joynes could easily be misconstrued as Giles.

Edward was born 1860 in Willenhall, Staffs and Harriet 1858 Willenhall, Staffs.

I have the marriage cert, and it states Edward Giles father as Henry again this matches with what I know about Edward and the occupation for both father and son are correct, just the surname is a bit dicky.

What confuses matters even further is that on the in the 1891 (still Willenhall) census Harriet & Edward are married and have a sister in law Elizabeth Bates living with them. Tracing backwards I found what I thought was Harriet with her mother Jemima (or Jessica) living with an Abraham Bates who she married in 1864, (6 years after Harriet was born). So far so good....... Harriets mother appeared to be Jemima Cooper nee Morgan and her father George Cooper who died when Harriet was only 2, hence the remarriage.

HOWEVER, the damn marriage cert of Edward (Giles) and Harriet states her father as Edward Cooper!.

I can't find a Harriet Cooper of the right age in the census reports with a father Edward, though I can find IGI records in the right area with either a Sophie or Jane as mothers.

The Great and Good of GR what do you think, have I got the wrong marriage cert?, or with Harriet's father dying when she was only two, could she have got it wrong? or have I gone barking mad?

Just for the record I have searched for an Edward Giles with a father Henry living in Willenhall, Staffs and can't find that one either, so I am inclined to believe that a mistranscription has occured.

This search is sending me round the twist, could anyone help, sorry its a bit long winded, but as you can see, it takes a bit of explaining!

Many thanks to anyone you can offer advice, or recommend a good shrink?.

Cheryl