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Looking for Sabina Vaus, born c1836, Surrey, England, apparently on 1861 Essex census. (Do not have UK Ancestry; cannot see full details.)

Sabina, born c1836, was the name of my ancestor's sister. Wondering if the above is my Sabina. Thank you for your help.

(Having internet problems; if I don't come back here today, I will check again from work tomorrow.) Thank you.

1861 England Census
about Sabina Vaus
Name: Sabina Vaus
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Abbury, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Woodford
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: West Ham
Sub registration district: Walthamstow
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 146
Household Members:
Name Age
Clara Hester Hallett 47
Richard Hallett 60
Sabina Vaus 25
Ann White 27

Thank you very much, Lost. That's her; she and some siblings were born in Albury, Surrey. (Cannot find her birth; have a "family bible" that mentions her; now I know she did exist.) Thank you!!

Same details from FindMyPast with more detail:

1861 census transcription details for: High Road, Woodford
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09 Piece: 1062 Folio: 99 Page: 33

Reg. District: West Ham Sub District: 4 Walthamstow
Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: ...
Parish: Woodford City/Municipal Borough:
Address: High Road, Woodford
County: Essex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation,
Disability Where Born
HALLETT, Richard Head Married M 60 1801 Australian Merchant
Stepney, Middlesex
HALLETT, Clara ... Wife Married F 47 1814
Newington (Notts), Surrey
WHITE, Ann Cook Unmarried F 27 1834 House Servant
Crediton, Devonshire
VANS, Sabeira Servant Unmarried F 25 1836 House Servant
Abberley, Surrey

Thank you again! I was just trying to figure out where Woodford is...Sabina's sister married someone whom we believe was from Essex...was wondering if there was a connection. Thank you, will add all details to my Mumford/Vaus information.

Their is also this marriage:

Marriages Sep 1871 (>99%)
BAKER James Levi Dover 2a 1223
Burgess Eliza Dover 2a 1223
Smith Alfred Dover 2a 1223
Vans Sabina Dover 2a 1223
Vaus Sabina Dover 2a 1223

1871 census transcription details for: The Grange, Sibertswold
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10 Piece: 1011 Folio: 77 Page: 3

Reg. District: Dover Sub District: Hougham
Enum. District: 5 Ecclesiastical District:
Parish: Sibertswold City/Municipal Borough:
Address: The Grange, Sibertswold
County: Kent
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation, Where Born
FIELDING, George F M Son M 20 1851 Kent
FIELDING, Edith M Daughter F 18 1853 Kent
FIELDING, Ernest C Son M 17 1854 Kent
FIELDING, Rosa B Daughter F 16 1855 Kent
FIELDING, Mary Daughter F 14 1857 Kent
FIELDING, Lilian Daughter F 12 1859 Kent
FIELDING, Florence Daughter F 8 1863 Kent
FIELDING, Percy Son M 4 1867 Kent
FIELDING, Charles Brother & Boarder M 45 1826 Kent
HAMMOND, Rosa D Mother-In-Law F 67 1804 Kent
TRUEMAN, Isabella E Boarder F 29 1842 India
TRUEMAN, Charlotte F W Boarder F 4 1867 India
TRUEMAN, Eliza T M Boarder F 2 1869 Berkshire
KING, Margaret F 29 1842 Suffolk
OSBORNE, Annie Servant F 25 1846 Kent
VAUS, Sabina Servant F 29 1842 Albury, Surrey
BURCHETT, Jane Servant F 22 1849 Surrey
TICKNER, Mary A Servant F 19 1852 Surrey
SHAKESHAFT, Ellen Servant F 21 1850 Essex

1841 census transcription details for: Albury Village Ford Farm, Albury
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 1045 Book/Folio: 8/8 Page: 8

Reg. District: Guildford Sub District: Albury
Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District:
Parish: Albury City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Albury Village Ford Farm, Albury
County: Surrey
Name Relation Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation, Where Born
VAUS, William M 40 1801
VAUS, Mary F 40 1801
VAUS, Susannah F 12 1829 Surrey
VAUS, Maria F 11 1830 Surrey
VAUS, Louisa F 9 1832 Surrey
VAUS, Henry M 7 1834 Surrey
VAUS, Sebina F 5 1836 Surrey
BOWLER, James M 30 1811 Surrey
BOWLER, Olive F 25 1816 Surrey
BOWLER, Charles M 3 1838 Surrey
BOWLER, James M 1 1840 Surrey

Looks like she married Alfred Smith

1881 census transcription details for: Village, Ripple
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11 Piece: 999 Folio: 65 Page: 10

Reg. District: Eastry Sub District: Deal
Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District:
Parish: Ripple City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Village, Ripple
County: Kent
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation,
Disability Where Born
SMITH, Alfred Head Married M 38 1843 Coachman
Conley, Norfolk
SMITH, Sabina Wife Married F 44 1837
Albury, Surrey
SMITH, Percy Henry Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar
Shepherdswell, Kent
SMITH, Owen Alfred Son Single M 5 1876 Scholar
Shepherdswell, Kent
SMITH, Florence Edith Daughter Single F 3 1878
Shepherdswell, Kent

1891 census transcription details for: Ripple Pale, Ripple, Great Mongeham
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12 Piece: 739 Folio: 125 Page: 4

Reg. District: Eastry Sub District: Deal
Enum. District: 16 Ecclesiastical District: Ripple
Parish: Ripple City/Municipal Borough: Great Mongeham
Address: Ripple Pale, Ripple, Great Mongeham
County: Kent
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation,
Disability Where Born
SMITH, Alfred Head Married M 48 1843 Coachman
Cowley, Middlesex
SMITH, Sabina Wife Married F 54 1837
Albury, Surrey
SMITH, Florence E Daughter F 13 1878
Shepherds Well, Kent

Sorry, I was still checking out where Woodford is (trying to see how close it is to other Mumford locations in Essex). (Sabina's sister married a Mumford, believed to be born in Essex.)

Thank you SO much for all of the information. I am thrilled. I knew of Sabina's existence, but haven't researched this family too much. I always felt that she died young. Sounds strange, but I'm happy to see that she did outlive childhood. I've always wondered about her, since she was the only sibling (out of 14) who didn't have a common name. She is one of two siblings that is not on the LDS website (for birth). Thank you again!!

PS Unfortunately, with a name of Smith it will be difficult...would there be a chance I could trace the Smith family to living rellies, do you think? My ancestors left England prior to 1870, so I don't know anything about more recent research. I have made contact with three Vaus descendants (two through this site)...haven't tried looking for Vaus' who married and changed their names.

I think this is her in 1851 the name looks like Vaus on the image.


1851 England Census
about Sabina Haus
Name: Sabina Haus
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: London, England

Civil Parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Newington
Sub registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 48
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Haus 28
Henry Haus 17
Sabina Haus 15
William Haus 30

Name: William Haus
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Chilworth, Surrey, England

Name: Ann Haus
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Chilworth, Surrey, England

Name: Henry Haus
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England

Lost, thank you SO much! I can't believe what you have found! I was just looking through LDS records, to see which siblings have birth records. After a brief check, I can't find her older siblings (haven't looked thoroughly, though.) I always thought they were born in Shipley, Sussex. Can't wait to google Chilworth!

Sabina's siblings were:
Frederick, born 1818
William
Anna
Mary Ann
Carolina
Elizabeth
Emily, b1827
Susanna(h) (my ancestor), 1829
Maria
Louisa, 1831
Henry, 1833
Ellen, 1834
Sabina, c1836
Charles, 1837 (died 6 days old)

So, you definitely found her and her siblings.

One of Sabina's brothers (believe it was Frederick) died around age 31 supposedly while trying to save someone who was drowning. (Just added that since you have been so kind to spend so much time and effort looking for the family. I thought it might make the family more personal, rather than just names and dates.) :)

Sabina's father died 1846; mother died 1850. Explains why she was working in 1861, eh?

I see that Henry was born in London. :)

It's too long of an explanation, so won't type it, but I've wondered if the family travelled to London. This helps with some other research!!

Your Smiths really depends on the names. I was lucky with mine they gave them all unusual first names and often included the mmn as a middle name. I'll see if I can find them in 1901.

Here's Owen


1901 England Census about Owen A Smith
Name: Owen A Smith
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheperds Well, Kent, England

Civil Parish: St George Hanover Square
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: Valet Domestic

Condition as to marriage: Single

Education:

Employment status:

Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub registration district: Mayfair and Knightsbridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Household Members:
Name Age
Wm Byron 69
Joseph Decatatie 27
Emily Duley 25
Charles Maidment 58
Sophie Maidment 60
Eliz Mozely 15
Elsie Reid 13
Janet Reid 12
Maire Reid 50
Margaret Reid 19
Owen A Smith 26
Lizzie Snape 24

Possible marriage:

Marriages Jun 1906 (>99%)
Chapple Kate Tregear Paddington 1a 68
MOOR Arthur Augustus Paddington 1a 68
>>> Smith Owen Alfred Paddington 1a 68
Woodley Florence Annie M B Paddington 1a 68

Can't tell who he married their are both Smith/Chapple and Smith/Woodley children.

Hi Lost:

You've already looked so much for me. If you are in the UK, it is getting late and I originally was just wondering about Sabina.

Thank you so much for everything! This is one of the biggest "breakthroughs" I've had. (Been looking on and off for all direct ancestors for 25+ years. Have spent very little time looking for any siblings.) I realize you posted a few minutes ago and may have started looking. If not, it's something that can wait for another time. Don't mean to sound ungrateful, just worried about the time you have spent looking.
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Just spotted your latest posting; I will try to get the certificate. Have very few certificates from the UK (all the rest are from Canada). So about time I get UK certs, eh? :)

Thank you again for everything. It is really appreciated!!

Haven't put the full list (theirs loads). Ancestry haven't transcribed his employers names but it looks like Hugh Richard Brosvenoy DUKE of WESTMINSTER!!! Also staying with the family are HRH Prince Henry of ??? and HRH Princess ??? of ???

1901 England Census about Percy Smith
Name: Percy Smith
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Shepherds Wold, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Eaton
Ecclesiastical parish: Eccleston
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address: Eaton Hall

Occupation: Under Butler

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

Registration district: Chester
Sub registration district: Chester Castle
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1

Lost, I've not had time to absorb everything! I keep trying to do google searches to figure out things (where all of the localities are, double-checking Vaus births and marriages, etc.)

Sorry, but haven't figured out who Percy Smith is. Sounds exciting, though. :)

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Percy was Sabina's son?

Hi Lisa

Don't worry I'm an imsomniac and this helps to tire me out :-) I actually wish I was joking but sleep does not come easy for some strange reason. Anyway I'll post this one as it helps to tie things up nicely. It looks like Sabina died before 1901 and Florence is still at home with her father but look who's with them!!! Had a look for Percy Henry Smith marriages but their are several so you may have to wait for the 1911 census for him.

1901 England Census about Florence Smith
Name: Florence Smith
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Alfred
Gender: Female
Where born: Shepherds Well, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Street
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Street
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

Registration district: Wells
Sub registration district: Glastonbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Smith 58
Florence Smith 23
Maria Vans 70 - image is definitely Vaus

Name: Alfred Smith
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Cowley, Middlesex, England

Name: Maria Vans
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Albury, Surrey, England