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Glad to have helped.
Good luck with the rest of your research.
Catherine

Catherine - just wanted to thank you again and to tell you that thanks to the 1901 census find I have made contact with a Powell relative - namely Clement William's grandson! It got a bit complicated because of their tendency to use 2nd names, but we got there in the end. As this is the 1st Powell contact for us both, it is very special to me.
thanks so much.
Jan x

Well, I suppose that's true! Can you get virtual wine?
Jan

I'll look into it and let you know if I find anything.
By the way you owe me a glass of wine!!
or two!!
Catherine

Thanks Catherine, you're a star. Where would we novices be without folk like you?
Regards
Jan
PS at the risk of pushing my luck, if you want a real challenge - who was Amy Hand?? Have tried to figure it out but in vain.

Hello Jan,
Glad to help. It's always nice when info matches and this research wasn't too difficult, with a name like Harris I was expecting it to be spelt in all kinds of ways but here there wasn't too much problem.
It would seem that David married Leah, she died and he married Emma in 1842 but don't know why I can't find anything on bmd, but then bmd records are not complete. With the christening record of Elizabeth and Letitia at least you know her maiden name was Hill.
When I have a bit of time I'll try and find something that matches.
Regards
Catherine

Catherine - what can I say!! I had some of this but by no means all, so thank you from the bottom of my heart. It is a bit confusing - I assume David married twice, Or maybe he didn't marry Emma at all! (Don't know what the marriage to Emma Harris is all about!)
I'm sure you are right about Clement in 1901 - who can blame him for calling himself William.(Sorry any Clements out there!)
Many thanks again.
Jan

Hold on just one more thing.
Found birth for David:-
DAVID HARRIS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 26 AUG 1798 Tardebigg, Worcester, England
Father: JOSEPH HARRIS
Mother: MARY

You need to print this all off now and put it into order so that you can see what is missing.

Hope it's all helped, it all seems to fit anyway.

Going to make a cup of tea now!
Regards
Catherine

Hang on just a sec.

Elizabeth HARRIS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 06 OCT 1842 Webheath, Worcester, England
Father: David HARRIS
Mother: Emma HILL

Letitia HARRIS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 24 MAY 1844 Redditch, Worcester, England
Father: David HARRIS
Mother: Emma HILL

Martha Harris - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: About 1857 Redditch, Worcester, England

You sometimes find two dates of birth and in slightly different places as people sometimes registered the birth of a child in father's parish and mother's parish.
You also have to be careful as some are not birth dates, but christening dates.

Can't find above marriage on freebmd so don't know what to think of that!

Also need to find death for Leah, between 1831 and 1841.

Marriage David and Emma:-

David Harris - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: About 1842 Redditch, Worcester, England
Spouse: Mrs. Emma Harris
Birth: 1798 Webheath, Worcester, England

Blow!!!

Births father David mother Leah:-

JOSEPH DAVID HARRIS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 08 JUL 1827 Bordesley, Warwick, England

SELINA HARRIS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 08 JUL 1827 Bordesley, Warwick, England

Kezia Harris - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 20 MAR 1831 Tardebigg,Worcester And, , Warwick, England

other births noted parents David and Leah:-

JOSEPH HARRIS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 23 APR 1824
Gender: Male Christening: 28 DEC 1824 St Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England

CHARLES HARRIS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 04 JAN 1829 Aston Juxta Birmingham, Warwick, England
CHARLES HARRIS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 04 JAN 1829 Bordesley, Warwick, England

Possible birth for Kezia:-

Kezia Harris - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 20 MAR 1831 Tardebigg,Worcester And, , Warwick, England
Father: David Harris
Mother: Leah Harris


1861
Name: David Harris
Age: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Tardibeg, Worcestershire, England
Occupation: Carpenter
Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 132
Household Members:
Name Age
Caroline Harris 35 - Daughter
born: Brewood, Staffordshire
David Harris 62
Emily Harris 7 - Daughter
born: Birmingham, Warwickshire
Emma Harris 42 - Wife born: Aston, Warwickshire
Harriet Harris 9 - Daughter
born: Birmingham, Warwickshire
Joseph Harris 34-Son
born: Birmingham, Warwickshire


With Elizabeth:-

1851
Name: David Harris
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Tardebigg, Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: Birmingham St Thomas
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Occupation: Carpenter

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub registration district: St Thomas
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
David Harris 53
Elizabeth Harris 8
Emma Harris 44
Letitia Harris 6
Martha Harris 4
Selina Harris 23

Name: Elizabeth Harris
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: David
Mother's Name: Emma
Gender: Female
Where born: Redditch, Worcestershire, England


With Kezia

1841
Name: David Harris
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: Tardebigg
Hundred: Halfshire (Upper Division)
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Occupation: Carpenter

Registration district: Bromsgrove
Sub registration district: Tardebigg
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
David Harris 40
Emma Harris 20
Joseph Harris 15
Kesiah Harris 10
Leland Harris 14

Think this is Clement in 1901, date and place of birth are correct and his second name was William (interchanging names again) and he has named one of his children Augustus. Also occupation is correct:-

Name: William Powell
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Yardley, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Edmonton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Occupation: Metal Spinner

Registration district: Edmonton
Sub registration district: Edmonton
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 65
Household Members:
Name Age
Annie Powell 28 born: Bristol, Gloucestershire
Augustus Powell 1 born: Edmonton, Middlesex
Lucy Powell 8 born: Birmingham, Warwickshire
Nora Powell 4 born: Edmonton, Middlesex
William Powell 30
William Powell 6 born: Edmonton, Middlesex

Thanks to Horace can confirm Elizabeth's maiden name:-
1871
Name: Horace Powell
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Kings Norton
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub registration district: Kings Norton
ED, institution, or vessel: 12b
Household schedule number: 98
Household Members:
Name Age
Amy Hand 3
David Harris 72
Emily Harris 17
Emma Harris 52
Horace Powell 2

Name: Emma Harris
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: David
Gender: Female
Where born: Lichfield

Name: David Harris
Age: 72
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Worcestershire, England
Occupation: Carpenter

Name: Emily Harris
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: David
Mother's Name: Emma
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire

Name: Amy Hand
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham,

Checked all the Powells born Warwickshire between 1868 and 1870 and this is the best bet for Horace:-

Births Jun 1868
POWELL Harris Horace Birmingham 6d 105

wish they wouldn't interchange their names like that!!!

Thanks to Horace found the family in 1881:-

Name: Horace H. Powell
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmm

Civil Parish: Kings Norton
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street address: Agar Place
Education:

Occupation: Carriage Lamp Maker

Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub registration district: Kings Norton
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Powell 38 - Windower
(born: Fox Lyddiate, Worcestershire,)
Horace H. Powell 12
M. Powell 15 born: Yatton, Somerset
(Occupation: Tin Plate Worker Apprentice)

Oh dear. Many apologies - have been intensively researching a Clarence elsewhere and had a crossed wire in my brain. Original post now corrected. Thanks so much for all your input in spite of this!
Catherine - you have come up with some great stuff, thank you. I do know that there is a Kezia Harris in the family, she is sister (or half-sister) of Elizabeth (Horace's wife and my gg grandmother).
I don't think that the Horace born in Leamington is mine. I did find a birth of a Harris Horace Powell, which with his mother's maiden name being Harris made me wonder if it is him. Need the birth cert so will risk it, what's £7 after all!

Many thanks again, if you feel inclined to look more don't let me stop you!!

Yours gratefully,
Jan

Finally found Horace in 1901:-

Name: Horace Powell
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil Parish: Yardley
Ecclesiastical parish: Yardley Wood Christchurch
Town: Billesley Common
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street address:Coldbath Lane ?

Occupation:Carriage Lamp Maker

Registration district: Solihull
Sub registration district: Solihull
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 203
Household Members:
Name Age
Clement Powell 5
Elizabeth Powell 31 born: Birmingham, Warwickshire
Hathleen Powell 4
Hilda Powell 2
Horace Powell 32
Lizzie Powell 11 months
Phillip Powell 9 born: Birmingham

Marriage:-
Marriages Dec 1890 (>99%)
Powell Horace Aston 6d 554
Wilson Elizabeth Aston 6d 554

1891
Name: Horace Powell
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham; Ham

Civil Parish: Kings Norton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pauls Balsall Heath
Town: Balsall Heath
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub registration district: Kings Norton
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Powell 21
Horace Powell 22