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Just thought I would ask.....hopefully the birth I gave you is correct...his mums name will be on the certificate.


Regards Vera

You have been so kind Vera, you've "made" my day !!

Thankyou - All the best !

Jacky xx

A pleasure Jacky,if I find anymore....will pm you, if thats alright....
Regards Vera

Thats great Vera - Thankyou !!

Jacky xx

Hi Jacky,
I think your Joseph was also married before and so was Dorothy.

Regards Vera

1881
Dorothy Towers
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Issac
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotforth, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Ellel
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: Beer House
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Landlady

Registration district: Lancaster
Sub registration district: Ellel
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Burrows 26
Dorothy Towers 56
Issac Towers 63


1861
Joseph Johnson
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Galgate, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Chorley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Chorley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Chorley
Sub registration district: Chorley
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 20
Household Members: Name Age

Joseph ....occupation stoker 20
Ellen .....occupation winder 21



Regards Vera

1881
Ellen Johnson
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Joseph
Gender: Female
Where born: Ellel, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Ellel
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: No 5 Dolphinholme Cotts
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Wife

Registration district: Lancaster
Sub registration district: Ellel
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Johnson 40
James Johnson 17
John Johnson 6
Joseph Johnson 37
Margaret Johnson 8
Robert Johnson 19



I wonder if this is th second marriage for Joseph
Marriages Jun 1888 (>99%)
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......JOHNSON Joseph Lancaster 8e 1039
LEEMING Elizabeth Lancaster 8e 1039
SOMERS Dorothy Lancaster 8e 1039
Thompson James Lancaster 8e 1039
.....Towers Dorothy Lancaster 8e 1039


Regards Vera

Oh Wow..............all my family have married twice....except my generation !!

Thankyou so much Vera - your a Gem.

Jacky xx

1871
James Johnson
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Ellel, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Ellel
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Galgate
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Lancaster
Sub registration district: Ellel
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 28
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Johnson 31
James Johnson 7
Joseph Johnson 31

Regards Vera

Just going through the info you have so kindly found for me, Joseph has to be Roberts brother........both born in Galgate with only approx a year between them, and some of their children have the same names................

Oh my wall is being shattered...........Lol

Jacky xx

I did wonder....still trying to find them on the 1851 census.....that should clinch it

Regards Vera

Just found on the Lancashire BMD, Roberts and Josephs mothers single name was Webster, these have just been added in the last couple of days !!

Jacky xx

HI Jacky,
I didn't know about that website ....... Lancashire BMD.

I certainly live and learn !!!

That proves that they were brothers.


Regards Vera

Good Morning Vera,

Yes, it certainly proves they were brothers..........

The Lancs BMD site is regulary updated and i was lucky yesterday that this info was just put on !!!!

Thankyou for the kindness you have shown me - so much appreciated, my sisters are "over the moon" along with myself. with the info you gave me.

Take Care

Jacky xx