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MASSIVE CHALLENGE CAN IT BE SOLVED?

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GillianMac

GillianMac Report 6 Sep 2008 16:21

I hesitate to suggest this but is it possible Ellen Jane was not able to marry the father of her children because he was too closely related -i.e. uncle or half brother .I f as was suggested early on it was widely known in such a small community, it might explain his spells in the workhouse , unable to get work.
Has William Thomas's family been traced -I am having difficulty finding him at all but obviously you have by the ref to naval service/

Frederick is shown in 1861 aged 6 with widowed mother Mary 44 Laundress and siblings Emma, 16, Anna 9 and Charles 8
But in 1851 Emma (who is deaf and dumb) 6 and Anna 1 are with parents Charles and ANNA.There cant surely be 2 Emma's same age and place who are deaf and dumb So is Mary and Anna same person? Different ages and different birthplaces.

Robin

Robin Report 8 Sep 2008 10:30

just had a look at william thomas bellamy do not think this is our guy as he was b1897 but thanx for trying

Robin

Robin Report 8 Sep 2008 10:48

however Description Name Bellamy, William
Official Number: 130036
Place of Birth: Plymouth, Devon

Date 05 March 1866
Catalogue reference ADM 188/175
Dept Records of the Admiralty, Naval Forces, Royal Marines, Coastguard, and related bodies
Series Admiralty: Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services
Piece 130001 - 130500
Image contains 1 document of many for this catalogue reference

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 8 Sep 2008 11:25

Simon
You say the William Thomas I referred to above -born 1821 is not "yours " because yours was born 1897
I was referring to the one who married Frances Sophia Norman in 1854.Has anything been found on him apart from possible birth I found on IGI? And can anyone throw any light on the Mary/Anna mystery -Mother of Frederick in 1861 as Mary and in 1851 Anna as mother (and wife of Charles) of anna and emma

Robin

Robin Report 8 Sep 2008 13:10

sorry i got a little confused with another record did not read properly i was on about the one mavis found.


the 1821 william thomas bellamy still can not find a death for this chap.

Robin

Robin Report 8 Sep 2008 13:15

Mary and Anna same person they must be i think we have seen this before, we have william thomas bellamy side of the family going back to the 1600s we just need to find out who ellen jane bellamy had the children with as we can go no further on the direct male line i agree that something was being hidden hence why she didnt marry but what and how can we find it out? do you think workhouse fred is a possibility?

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 8 Sep 2008 16:47

Yes I do think Workhouse Fred is a strong candidate and I wonder if the local history society might have archives -or access to them -for the workhouse -which would give details of his admission and possibly next of kin -it might be worth getting his birth cert even if it only confirms his parents to be Charles and mary/Anna (not actually convinced they are the same person -think Anna Died and he married Mary but cant find proof -come to that I cant find birth for Charles nor a Marriage -very elusive family!

Robin

Robin Report 9 Sep 2008 09:14

how do i go about getting the workhouse info?

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 9 Sep 2008 14:26

I would contact the Archive section of County Hall in Exeter but "Google "it first to see if there is anything on line for Workhouse records or Exeter local history

Robin

Robin Report 9 Sep 2008 15:00

yeh i tried that but cant find anything lol ahhhh

Robin

Robin Report 9 Sep 2008 16:27

the records did not survive ww2

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 11 Sep 2008 14:55

Then I would get the birth cert for Workhouse Fred and see for sure who his parents are and if there is any family connection to Ellen It will also tell you the exact location of his birth so that parish records could be searched (if you fancy a trip to Exeter) to see if he had Samuel added as a middle name on his baptism.this happened quite often that a middle name was thought of and added after civil registration.