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jansmith

jansmith Report 17 Sep 2008 15:18

looking at the image William may be William James Morris (Morris wasn't written down though)
John written under William has" do " under the name James

jansmith

jansmith Report 17 Sep 2008 15:21

Don't see a death index for Mary between 1881-1891 so wonder if she did marry again?

John

John Report 17 Sep 2008 15:23

On the image is there any address?

John

John Report 17 Sep 2008 15:52

Hi Barbara
Marys Father on the marriage certificate is James Farm Labourer.1881 Census birthplace Celyrhedyn/Kilrhedyn for Mary.Does this help?

jansmith

jansmith Report 17 Sep 2008 16:29

I'm back for a short time.
Looking back at page one.1881 for William ties in with early census pages ,Address as on death cert you have for John.
Name: William Morris
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Trelech, Carmarthenshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Merthyr Tydfil
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: 22 Plymouth St
Occupation: Coal Weigher (Miner

Name: Phoebe James
Age: 72
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Relation: Housekeeper
Gender: Female
Where born: Eglwysnewydd, Pembrokeshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Merthyr Tydfil
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: 22 Plymouth St
Condition as to marriage: Windower
So looks like you may be looking at a marriage cert for John with no fathers name entered

jansmith

jansmith Report 17 Sep 2008 16:37

1861 William is with the James familyName: Wm Morris
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Carmarthenshire, Wales

Civil Parish or Township: Merthyr Tydfil
Town: Merthyr

looks like Plymouth st
Household Members: Name Age
Thos Evans 40 -lodger
Mary James 24
Phoebe James 54
Phoebe James 17
Thos James 26
Wm James 55
Dd Jones 22
Wm Morris 19



jansmith

jansmith Report 17 Sep 2008 16:55

did you know that the Thomas family(who Elizabeth is living with in 1891) lived next door to the Morris family in 1881

John

John Report 17 Sep 2008 17:44

Yes I did know about the Thomas being neighbours.Elizabeth married from there in 1900.What I didnt know about was the James/Morris connection in Plymouth Street.Could be a coincidence I suppose.Thanks for all that information Janice

John

John Report 17 Sep 2008 18:00

Barbara You are a star.I really cant believe youve managed to find Mary and her family.Now instead of having a death certificate I shall be sending for a birth certificate. I really cant thank you enough.I didnt expect all this input and such a positive result.

John

John Report 17 Sep 2008 18:32

Thanks Barbara
We live in Gloucestershire.Were off to Wales in October so we shall try and visit some of the places found this afternoon.

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