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1871 Census (repeating what was posted earlier, but with information from the image)

Name: James John Moses
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Cardiff, Wales
Civil Parish: St Petrox
Town: Dartmouth
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

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Registration district: Totnes
Sub registration district: Dartmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 179
Household Members: Name Age
James John Moses 4
Mary Moses 25 b.ca 1846, Cardiff, Wales
Rebecca S Moses 2 <<<<<<< REUBEN, b.ca 1869, Cardiff, SON




so Rebecca is a mistranscription by ancestry of Reuben!

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from IGI on family search:-

REUBEN SIMPSON MOSES Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 18 APR 1869 Saint Mary, Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales

Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: JOHN THOMAS MOSES Family
Mother: MARY

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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

No source document or additional information exists.

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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C057911 1843 - 1872 0104861 Film 0883779 Film

C057911 1872 - 1877 0104862 Film NONE





sylvia

from the International Genealogical Index on www.familysearch.org


It is an EXTRACTED record taken from the parish record.


JAMES JOHN MOSES Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 19 DEC 1867 Saint Mary, Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales

Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: JOHN THOMAS MOSES Family
Mother: MARY

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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

No source document or additional information exists.

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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C057911 1843 - 1872 0104861 Film 0883779 Film

C057911 1872 - 1877 0104862 Film NONE



sylvia

1841 census
Bearscove, St. Petrox, Dartmouth, Devon
John Moses, 40, pilot
Susan, 35
William, 14
Susan, 16
James, 8
Eliza, 4
Charles, 1
All born in county.

All things point to John Thomas being born 1843 and not 1835.
1851 census
Bearscove, St. Petrox, Dartsmouth, Devonshire
John Moses, head, 54, pilot, born Devon, Brixham
Susan, wife, 50, born Devon, Churston
James, son, 18, pilot's assistant
Eliza, dau, 13
Charles, son, 11
*John, son, 8
George, lodger, 1, says grandson in occupation column
Children all born Dartmouth.

This looks like it could be John Thomas in 1881 but no son James John. And where did Reuben come from?
1881 census
Above Town, St. Petrox, Dartmouth
John T. Moses, head, 38, mariner, born Dartmouth
Mary, wife, 36, born Cardiff
Reuben, son, 12, born Cardiff
Mary E., dau, 8, born Dartmouth
John T., son, 4, born Dartmouth
Edgar, son, 7 days, born Dartmouth

Your grandmother, known as Albertina and her sister Polly?
1901 census
19 Moira Terrace, St. Mary, Cardiff, Glamorganshire
Thomas Jackson, head, married, 65, stationary engine driver, born Liverpool
Joseph, son, single, 23, telephone wire man
Matilda, dau, single, 21
Prudence Glover, dau, 4
*Albertina Moses, niece, 6
*Polly Moses, niece, 4
All born Cardiff except head Thomas.
Don't know whose daughter Prudence Glover is? Should be daughter of the head but he's 65.

Could this be John Thomas' marriage?
John T. Moses and Mary Budd, June quarter 1866, Cardiff. (11a 333)

Are you sure of James John's birthplace? This looks like him:
1871 census
South town, St. Petrox, Dartmouth, Devon
Mary Moses, wife, 25, mariner's wife dressmaker
*James John, son, 4
Rebecca L., dau, 2
All born Cardiff, Wales.

Hi,
I'm trying to find more about my maternal great great grandfather Capt John Thomas Moses, born 7th Feb 1835 probably in Devon. His wife's surname was Budd. His son Capt James John Moses was born in Dartmouth in 1868 (11th March) and after many years at sea as a master mariner he ended up as harbour master of Callao in Peru. John Thomas I believe retired to Gloucester and captained the yacht of a wealthy Norwegian, going up and down the Gloucester-Sharpness canal and off on cruises. I can't find him on any censuses. I was told that his parents were John and Susan Moses, died respectively 1868 and 1878, whose tombstone is in St Petrock's churchyard in Dartmouth. But when I found them on the census there was no mention of a son John, so I wonder if my information was wrong (my Mum may have jumped to conclusions, or been told by someone else.) Alternatively perhaps we were given the wrong name. At some point the family moved to Cardiff after the new docks opened, and James John met and married Elizabeth Kelly Glover from Appledore, Devon whose family were boat-builders and had also moved to Cardiff. They married in Roath in 1892 and my grandmother Lizzie Alberta (Bertie) and her sister Mary Olive (Pollie) were born there in 1894 and 1896. Any information on John Thomas and who his parents were would be most welcome!
cheers, Linda