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So they are all labourers.......... They're not very helpful are they...lol

What about Queenie, date & place of birth

PART ONE - extracts from the passenger lists thread, where we were off-topic. ;-)

Samantha

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13th September 2008 11:32
Hi Lynne

Im stuck I've asked for help trying to find a Alice Hill B'Day, but no success, she was married to George Charles Morgan who I am also unable to find, they are the parents of my grandmother Queenie Florence Morgan who marrid into Dowsett, she married my grandfather William Percy Dowsett.

I only have Queenie's B'cert, she was born 10 Feb 1915. the add on the cert is Tilbury, Orsett district in the county of Essex.

any help would be fab.

Samantha

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13th September 2008 13:59
Samantha,

I searched on Ancestry... and searched and searched... I specified things and it still finds too much.

15 seconds on free BMD and I get this result straight away. I don't understand it.



Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Marriages Sep 1900 (>99%)
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Cracknell Harry W. Ham 4a 114
Gregory Ada W. Ham 4a 114
Hill Alice W. Ham 4a 114
Morgan George W.Ham 4a 114


Any good to you?

Usual health warning applies about the sequence of names on the BMD display not being an indication of who married whom. You have Queenies birth cert so you already know.


hth

Mark

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Samantha 13th September 2008 16:09

Hi Mark

I am trying so hard to find either george or alice birth or death and i just keep hitting a brick wall, i also have been giving that marriage but no luck on the birth side, i have an address on queenie B'Cert if that would be any help?

Regards
Samantha

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PART TWO - recent findings.
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NEW 22/09/08 @ 21:38

Here's a Hill family of West Ham (where the 1900 marriage was). The (possible) father is a Widower in the 1891 so the names here are all siblings and "Susama" would be her grandmother (George's mother).

On the census image, George is listed as "Bricklayer's labourer, so check that against the Alice/George Morgan marriage cert.

1891 England Census about George Hill
Name: George Hill
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Mother's Name: Susama
Gender: Male
Where born: Datchet, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 52
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Hill 11 (born London St. Lukes)
George Hill 40 (born Bucks Datchett)
George R Hill 5 (born London Camden Town)
Helen A Hill 10 (born Kent Faverhsam)
James C Hill 8 (London Wapping , might be James G.)
Martha Hill 6 (born London Shoreditch)
Susama Hill 60 (born Bucks Hamersham) {Amersham now?}


It's wierd that his children are born all over the place. Maybe he has to move all the time, in his line of work?


22:00
Not much joy looking in 1901, so far.


Mark

the same but without the dock in it

What about their fathers professions also, when & where was Queenie born?

george morgan 22, is a laboren, on his daughter birth queenie it also says a dock laboren? spelling cant read

Hiya
what professions are on the cert?
Sam

i thought ild try to find her on the 1901 censusnow shes married and still no luck

do you have her on the 1901 census with george

it should give her place of birth

A Small prob thats whats been holding me up she is so hard to find I only have her fathers name thats hill and stop no more thats why i got her marriage to find her age hoping that would bring a step closer

you will need to check indexs from around 1875

but also check under mothers maiden name

i had a nightmare finding my grandmother until i checked under her mothers maiden name and found her.


look for the family on census that should give her place of birth

Hi Everyone
but you can still PM me

Alice Hill has been giving my a brick wall for some time now, as I have been unable to find her at all, and I mean her Birth.
I have now ordered her marriage certificate to find her age.

She was married on July28 1900, she married George Morgan, they both was 22 years of age, their father names are the same they are both George Morgan and Hill.

I have her residence at Otford ? just a scribble sorry the hand writting is really bad.

Thanks
Samantha