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Help finding details on Mary Vaughan

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AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 29 Sep 2008 11:45

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Researching:
Breakspears of Berkshire and Cardiff, Williams and Harman of Whitchurch, Melingriffith &Tongwynlais,Glamorgan WE HAVE NO CONNECTION Do not share your tree with me

LauraBMurphy

LauraBMurphy Report 26 Sep 2008 12:40

thanks Helen, i've already checked that out. I guess i'm hoping that someone will be able to help me get something concrete on Mary but i;m just getting very confused with all the info provided . . . i don't really know what to do with it all and what i should take from it! AAAARRRRRGGGGHHHH lol! this flippin woman is becoming the bain of my life!!! :o)

Helen

Helen Report 26 Sep 2008 10:22

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?Monmouth/Monmouth.shtml

Take a look at this site it tells you a bit about the work house and what records are held.

Helen

Researching:
Clay, Dabell, Meadwell, Crowson

LauraBMurphy

LauraBMurphy Report 26 Sep 2008 08:58

wow that's amazing - although i have to be honest and say i have no idea who Henry is! whenever i've been passed any information on Mary, it's only been mentioned her having one child, Edwin! i'm finding all of this such a mystery and really have no idea where to go with this. Is it likely mary had more children? how can we find her parents details?

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 25 Sep 2008 16:13

you may be interested to know that about three hundred years ago there was a famous Welsh poet, Henry Vaughan from Llansantffraed, Nr Brecon. An American friend of mine [sadly now deceased]Thomas O Calhoun, Professor of English from University of Delaware came to Cardiff on a sabbatical to write a book on Henry and I have a copy of that book "The Achievement of Silex Scintillans" - far too deep for me to understand I am afraid, but I have visited Henry's grave and seen where he lived

Researching:
Breakspears of Berkshire and Cardiff, Williams and Harman of Whitchurch, Melingriffith &Tongwynlais,Glamorgan WE HAVE NO CONNECTION Do not share your tree with me

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){ Report 25 Sep 2008 15:35

Selena.....my gut feeling is that it's the one in the workhouse too. Don't ask me why lol

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 25 Sep 2008 15:28

These christenings are given in the same batch on the IGI as Edwins (previous page on thread).

CAROLINE VAUGHAN Birth:
Christening: 22 JUL 1855 Monmouth, Monmouth, England

Mother: MARY VAUGHAN

WILLIAM VAUGHAN
Christening: 12 FEB 1843 Monmouth, Monmouth, England

Father: MICHAEL VAUGHAN
Mother: MARY

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 25 Sep 2008 15:22

Henry's christening

Henry Vaughan
Christening: 07 FEB 1836 Monmouth, Monmouth, England

Mother: Mary Vaughan

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 25 Sep 2008 15:18

I think she is the first one in the workhouse with Henry, not the daughter of Thomas and Ann

Selena in South East London

Selena in South East London Report 25 Sep 2008 15:14

Thanks Jeanette, it seems she was born in Monmouth.

There are a few possible christenings on the IGI (www.familysearch.org)

Maybe Mary should be checked with Sarah to see if they are sisters, although she could be her daughter as there is confusion over Mary's age?

LauraBMurphy

LauraBMurphy Report 25 Sep 2008 15:14

GREAT!!! so do you think perhaps Mary's family could be:

Registration district: Monmouth
Sub registration district: Monmouth
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Name
Ann Vaughn 47
Ann Vaughn 4
Mary Vaughn 14
Thomas Vaughn 32
Thomas Vaughn 5
Timothy Vaughn 2
William Vaughn 7

I know that on Edwin's marriage certificate his fathers name was put as Thomas Vaughan - more than likely for appearance sake - however Thomas could have be then name of his grandfather??? is this likley? Perhaps the spelling Vaughan changed over the years!?

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){ Report 25 Sep 2008 15:05

There is this possible death for a Henry Vaughan (the one from the workhouse)

Deaths Jun 1849 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Vaughan Henry Monmouth 26 72

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){ Report 25 Sep 2008 15:01

Ok, for 1841 I've gone for the Mary Vaughans that are in Monmouth as she doesn't seem to have been anywhere else over the years (I think the birth in Gloucestershire was a hiccup). So, because of her varying ages, there are 3 possibles. What's the bet it's the one in the workhouse LOL

Workhouse

Name: Mary Vaughan
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Female
Where born: Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Monmouth
Hundred: Monmouth
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Monmouth
Sub registration district: Monmouth

Henry Vaughan 5 Monmouthshire
Mary Vaughan 20

***************************************************

Name: Mary Vaughn
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Female
Where born: Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Monmouth
Hundred: Monmouth
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Monmouth
Sub registration district: Monmouth
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Name
Mary Berry 20
Mary Vaughn 20
Phillip Vaughn 50

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 752; Book: 2; Civil Parish: Monmouth; County: Monmouthshire; Enumeration District: 3; Folio: 21; Page: 33; Line: 19; GSU roll: 438848.

********************************************************

Name: Mary Vaughn
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Gender: Female
Where born: Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Monmouth
Hundred: Monmouth
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Monmouth
Sub registration district: Monmouth
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Name
Ann Vaughn 47
Ann Vaughn 4
Mary Vaughn 14
Thomas Vaughn 32
Thomas Vaughn 5
Timothy Vaughn 2
William Vaughn 7

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 752; Book: 2; Civil Parish: Monmouth; County: Monmouthshire; Enumeration District: 4; Folio: 38; Page: 17; Line: 9; GSU roll: 438848.

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){ Report 25 Sep 2008 14:54

Possible death

Deaths Dec 1898 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Vaughan Mary 77 Monmouth 11a 21

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){ Report 25 Sep 2008 14:51

A possible for 1891

Name: Mary Vaughan
Age: 75
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Where born: Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Monmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Monmouth
Sub registration district: Monmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Vaughan 75

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4343; Folio 57; Page 12; GSU roll: 6099453.

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){ Report 25 Sep 2008 14:49

This looks like her in 1881. She likes to muck about with her age doesn't she!

Name: Mary Vaughan
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Monmouth, Monmouth, Wales

Civil Parish: Monmouth
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street address: Granvill St
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Housekeeper

Registration district: Monmouth
Sub registration district: Monmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Vaughan 64
William Watkins 71

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 5228; Folio: 74; Page: 14; Line: ; GSU roll: 1342259.

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){ Report 25 Sep 2008 14:47

This looks like Mary in 1871

Name: Mary Vaughan
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Monmouthshire, Wales
Civil Parish: St Mary
Town: Monmouth
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Monmouth
Sub registration district: Monmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 120
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Vaughan 50
William Watkins 58

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 5303; Folio: 80; Page: 25; GSU roll: 848432.

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){ Report 25 Sep 2008 14:34

Right this is the 1861 image I think, still in the workhouse


Name: Edwin Vaughn
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Male
Where born: Monmouthshire, Wales

Civil Parish or Township: Monmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: Llandaff
Town: Monmouth
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Monmouth
Sub registration district: Monmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 185

Edwin Vaughn 12 Monmouth
Mary Vaughn 46 Monmouth


These two are also in the workhouse on the previous page so I don't know if they're related

Rebecca Vaughn 2 Dixton Monmouthshire
Sarah Vaughn 28 Dixton Monmouthshire

LauraBMurphy

LauraBMurphy Report 25 Sep 2008 13:50

thanks for the help everyone! Selina - unfortuantely i the only info i have on her is that provided! i'm told the census records say birth place of Gloucester and thats it - though i haven't seen it myself. the 1861 census shows her at 46 (although as mentioned the 1851 census shows her as 30!?? ) unfortunately, i don't know if she had any other children - i believed Edwin to be an only child! this is a mystery it seems

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){

}((((*> Jeanette The Haddock <*)))){ Report 25 Sep 2008 13:48

Here they are in 1851

Name: Mary Vanglns
[Mary Vaughn]
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Pauper
Gender: Female
Where born: Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish or Township: Monmouth
Town: Monmouth
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Occupation: View Image
Disability: View Image
Registration district: Monmouth
Sub registration district: Monmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 2e
Household schedule number: 141

Edwin Vanglns 1
Mary Vanglns 30



Looks like they're in the workhouse

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