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Kathleen
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14 Nov 2008 13:44 |
Hi, I have just received the birth cert for Elizabeth Carrick. She was born 14 April 1842, at 6.30 am. West Derby Lancaster. Father Christopher Carrick, mother Ann, nee, Bryan. Do you think she may have been a twin as its not common to have time of birth on cert. If Christopher Carrick died 1847/8 and his wife remarried George Leeves in 1852, I wonder if they were living together in 1851, as no one can find Elizabeth Carrick born 1842 in the 1851 census, could she be living with Leeves family or even using the name Leeves.
Can anyone take a look when they have time for Leeves family in 1851, her mothers maiden name was Bryan, could Elizabeth be living with then do you think.
thanks for all your help, if I had the 1851 census I think the line for Elizabeth Carrick would be at an end.
Best wishes Kathy
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Kathleen
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4 Nov 2008 22:23 |
hi, I sent for this birth cert last night
Name: Elizabeth Carrick Year of Registration: 1844 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Carlisle County: Cumbria, Cumberland Volume: 25 Page: 48
Will wait and see what it brings, did say Christopher Carrick was Father, no mothers name.
Keep your fingers crossed
Thanks Kathy
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Ozibird
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4 Nov 2008 21:24 |
Thanks for that LfW, wish I had ancestors in Lancashire.
Well done for finding the Ann christening.
Kathleen - what do you think??
Births Sep 1844 Connick Ann Maria W Derby 20 912
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Kathleen
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3 Nov 2008 17:58 |
Hi all, I am saving every thing you post, its all on record. Many thanks for all your help.
I received the Birth cert today for James Dixon. 13 June 1844, James, father Henry, cotton spinner, mother Jane, nee Hacking, 11 Factory hill, Leonard Gate, Lancaster.
You have all done so well to get me this far back, keep up the good work, ha ha, I am so pleased you are willing to help, cant thank you enough.
Kathy
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2 Nov 2008 23:08 |
Possible:
IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles ANN CERRIEK Female Event(s): Birth: Christening: 26 AUG 1844 Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Death: Burial: Parents: Father: CHRISTOPHER CERRIEK Mother: ANN Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: P020941 1842 - 1844 0093884 Film 6903233 Film P020941 1842 - 1844 0093884 Film NONE Sheet: 00
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2 Nov 2008 22:39 |
Hi Ozi
On Lancsbmd if their are two names on the marriage cert they show it as two entries. So if Ann did remarry Leeves then Doran *could* be her maiden name. It's one of those 'you need the cert to prove it' :-)
Regards LfW
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2 Nov 2008 22:38 |
I give up. She's disappeared.
Ozi.
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2 Nov 2008 22:18 |
I've just looked at LforW's post about Ann marrying George Leeves. Is the Ann M Doran also posted her maiden name?
Ozi.
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2 Nov 2008 21:11 |
I've just noticed I repeated Thomas's christening below. I meant to post this one.
IGI Individual Record CHRISTOPHER CARRICK Christening: 17 SEP 1838 Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Parents: Father: CHRISTOPHER CARRICK Mother: ANN Same source info as Thomas.
Births Sep 1838 CARRICK Christopher West Derby 20 859 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deaths Dec 1839 CARRICK Christopher West Derby 20 761
Re "2nd generation Carrick/Dixon" wasn't Mary her elder sister? It would be the same generation, perhaps even the same Dixon!! It would make sense as far as Elizabeth moving away from Liverpool.
Ozi.
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Kathleen
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2 Nov 2008 15:18 |
Hi Ozibird, that is a odd one, I wonder if there is a conection, Carrick and Dixon second generation? Although this thomas came from ireland, and I cant face another Irish ancester, 3 are more than enough. Still hoping for 1851 censu for Ann Carrick, she got to be somewhere!
Cheers Kathy
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1 Nov 2008 22:56 |
Just gotta wonder about this one!
Marriages Mar 1866 >>>Carrick Mary Liverpool 8b 409 >>>DIXON Thomas Liverpool 8b 409 MARTIN Margaret A Liverpool 8b 409 Southward George Liverpool 8b 409
1871 England Census Name: Mary Dixon Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Thomas Gender: Female Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Liverpool Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthias Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Street address: 4 Carlton St
Occupation:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Liverpool Sub registration district: St Martin ED, institution, or vessel: 49 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 65 Household Members: Name Age Ann McKeever 60 Mary McKeever 24 Rose McKeever 23 James Marris 30 } looks like Morris Anne Marris 26 } " Rose Anne Marris 2 } " Fanny Norris 2 } definitely Norris William Norris 2 months } " Thomas Dixon 30 - dock labourer; Ireland; lodging with the McKeevers Mary Dixon 30 Mary Jane Dixon 5
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1 Nov 2008 22:44 |
IGI Individual THOMAS CARRICK Birth: 04 JAN 1837 Christening: 20 FEB 1837 Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Parents: Father: CHRISTOPHER CARRICK Mother: ANN -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Batch No.: P020274 Dates: 1833 - 1835, 1835 - 1837, 1837 - 1839
Also - same source info.
IGI Individual Record THOMAS CARRICK Birth: 04 JAN 1837 Christening: 20 FEB 1837 Saint Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England Parents: Father: CHRISTOPHER CARRICK Mother: ANN
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Ozibird
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1 Nov 2008 21:37 |
No luck with anybody else so far. Can't even find George Leeves.
I'll keep searching. I have to go out myself later, but will update throughout the day if I find anything.
Ozi.
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1 Nov 2008 21:31 |
Marriages Mar 1855 Hargreaves Robert Liverpool 8b 101 LEEVES George Edgar Liverpool 8b 101 THOMAS Elizabeth Liverpool 8b 101 WOODS Jane Liverpool 8b 101
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Kathleen
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1 Nov 2008 21:29 |
Hi Ozibird, you might have son in census but where was mother, I wonder, Elizabeth would be about 6, I wonder if she was living as the wife of George E Leeves she married hin 1853ish
going out soon will catch up tomorrow, thanks Ozibird you are a big help on the boards, I dont know what I would do without you. Cheers Kathy
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1 Nov 2008 21:26 |
1871 England Census Name: Thomas Carrick Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Margaret Gender: Male Where born: Liverpool Civil Parish: Toxteth Park Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Street address: 171 Mill St
Occupation: Pugger
Registration district: West Derby Sub registration district: Toxteth Park ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 170 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Carrick 34 Margaret Carrick 30 William Carrick 2 Julia Ruma 70
Marriages Sep 1861 Carrick Thomas W Derby 8b 690 Naylor Margaret W Derby 8b 690 Smith Sarah W Derby 8b 690
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1 Nov 2008 21:23 |
Possible?
1861 England Census Name: Thomas Carrick Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Relation: Seaman Gender: Male Where born: Liverpool Civil Parish: Vessels Town: At Sea County/Island: Misc Ships At Sea or Abroad Country: England Occupation: seaman
Condition as to marriage: single Registration district: Misc Ships Sub registration district: Misc Ships ED, institution, or vessel: Sardinia (2) Longish list of crew.
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Kathleen
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1 Nov 2008 21:03 |
NUGDE
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Kathleen
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1 Nov 2008 18:27 |
Hi, I have just found this death which could be Anns.
Deaths Sep 1853 Leeves Anne Maria W. Derby 8b 213
Hear is what I think is her remarriage
Marriages Dec 1852 Anne Maria Liverpool 8 14 George Edgar Liverpool 8b 14
Poor soul did'nt have much of a life, its more importent that I find her in 1851 now as she may not be on any other census, also what ever happend to the other children as posted in 1841
CARRICK, Thomas M 4 1837 Lancashire CARRICK, Mary F 1 1840 Lancashire
They would have been abt, 15 and 11 in 1851.
Can anyone find the 1851 census please.
Cheers Kathy
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Kathleen
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1 Nov 2008 17:30 |
hi, sorry she remarried in 1852, so would be widowed in 1851.
Thanks Kathy
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